[Resolved]  Cobra Group Of International — Cheater & flirt

List of known local Cobra Group subsidiaries

1. Dreamworks Acquisition
2. JAG Group
3. Keneve Group of Companies
4. Regal Group of Companies
5. Appco S/B (Father company)
6. ESP S/B
7. Pro Enterprise (SS15 Subang Jaya)
8. Rich Marketing Group (at least this one is honest enough to put the word "marketing" lol)

Their tactics & The Truth

** Salary of RM1800-RM3000 during training and more after 6-8 months project. You won't get paid any basic salary

** Usually under the title of "Management Trainee" or "Executive Development Program". Your title is SALES PERSONNEL

** These are the same lines all Cobra Group companies use:

-- "Fresh graduates who are willing to be coached from A to Z of a company operation and hardworking- please try your luck!" Coached - Reading from same piece of paper, memorize it and tell strangers about it

-- "Promotion to Managerial positions with Regional and Overseas Career Expansion". Something like Amway's incentive tours to overseas IF you con enough people

-- "The person who think that they possess all the skills required to be a successful future manager". When they expand, they chuck you there to further con people and you will have no time for your personal life AT ALL

-- "No min working experience is required (Special on-the-job training will be provided)". They train you to talk to strangers and be beggars

** On your first day of your you will be briefed on company structure. Any AMWAY members will know this is the exact promotion structure Amway uses the moment they see it. Sales projection, get 3 leaders you become Team Leader blablabla.

** On your second day, just quit the job.

** You'll get a piece of paper on dialogues and you are expected to preach to strangers. I don't think we graduated to be beggars.

The "new" advertisement:

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Interview

** First interview will be in group interview (suspicious?)

** Second interview you will follow your "evaluator" to the field, usually in front of banks and see what they do. They will tell you "This is to test how much do you want the job" and then ask you to do the same thing: Begging & Bugging

** Third interview will be on the same day of the 2nd. You will be asked to go back by yourself to the company. WTF right?


What they slipped

** One guy used the word "downline" and "upline"

** The boss comes into the office EARLIER than everyone and leave LATER than everyone, even his secretary. Somemore he dare to use the word "TIME FREEDOM" and then say he sleep at 10.30PM.

** The structure chart. Some people who never join Amway will not see it coming because the only direct sales company to use it is Amway, and Cobra Group is applying the same thing.

** No basic pay. Tell me, which PROFESSIONAL job (as they claim) doesn't pay their employees? Like that I also wanna be the boss lar.

If you have more info of this company or companies under Cobra Group / DS-Max, add it here as they seem to be running rampant all over Jobstreet, conning degree holders from Law to Engineering fresh grads. Sadly, these people think they are doing a great job, where in fact they are earning money and being brainwashed day in day out.

From Wikipedia (Credits: Polaris)

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Cobra slash DS MAX is in wikipedia, their infamous ways are well known all over the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DS-MAX

One of the most common complaints about DS-Max affiliated companies is in their recruiting and advertising practices. Often the position is advertised as an "entry level management position", and claims to operate in any number of glamorous, competitive, high profile, industries ranging from pro sports and entertainment to 4 star restaurants and world travel, when in reality the position is that of a door-to-door salesperson who peddles pizza coupons, discount baseball tickets, 5 dollar umbrellas, designer knock-off hand bags, and travel alarm clocks, none of which the applicant will actually discover until they are out "in the field" with a distributor on their "second interview".

A common interviewing formula used by the independent sales offices consists of:

1. A very short first round interview conducted in the office of the manager. Typically in this interview the manager will briefly outline the structure of the business to the potential new distributor. A typical DS-Max manager will interview anywhere from 10 to 30 people a day so this first interview is usually short on detail and any prolonged question and answer sessions are avoided if possible.

2. A full day "second interview" in the sales field where the potential distributor shadows a current distributor while they attempt to sell their products or services door-to-door. This full day interview is an attempt to show the potential distributor how a typical day in the field works. This full day interview, like the first interview is purposefully vague on details and most questions are not answered fully or more difficult questions get passed on to the manager/owner to handle during the final interview. This is known within DS-MAX circles as the "Day of Observation" or the "Day of O".

3. A "final interview" takes place in the manager's office when the potential distributor returns after a full day in the field. If the applicant has any problems or objections, the manager may attempt to overturn them. If the potential distributor needs some clarification in order to understand the "big picture" of this business opportunity the manager will attempt to explain the business beyond just selling products door-to-door. The goal of every manager is to encourage the interviewee to start full time the very next day.

The name DS-Max is often used to refer to the whole distribution system that includes DS-Max USA Inc., its affiliated suppliers and independent offices. Each affiliated sales office is an independent and incorporated business.

This legal separation between the DS-Max supplying organizations and each individual office insulates DS-Max from any legal or financial liability should something happen within an individual office.

Because all sales offices are independently owned and operated each individual distributor and manager/owner reaps the rewards of and is both financially and legally responsible for his own business. The majority of all distributors work as independent contractors and thus are not paid a salary, receive no health benefits and are responsible for paying their own taxes.

The DS-Max system runs similarly to network marketing businesses but with several key differences:

1) Sales representatives (distributors) generally work full-time (often six days, 60 hours or more a week), relying on their sales for their primary source of income, rather than a slow transition from part-time to full-time.

2) The individual owner assumes the cost and advertises for new distributors and finds a mentor for them, rather than the distributor absorbing the cost of recruiting.

3) Distributors receive the products on consignment rather than paying for them up front and there is no fee for becoming a distributor.

The business only grows when new distributors are added. While DS-Max as a whole has grown quite large through the years, the vast majority of distributors and managers in affiliated distribution operations in the DS-Max system have not enjoyed success. In the 20 plus years of operation the Ds-max business model has generated some tremendous success for a small group of Vice-Presidents, or as they are referred to now, National Consultants, but the question of how many have found success in Ds-max compared to the number who have attempted to achieve success can only be answered by analyzing accurate, detailed records of these organizations and their affiliates. However the nature of their operations make it unlikely that such documentation exists.

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Ido May 2 2006, 02:42 PM Show posts by this member only |Rating BETA (0+, 0-) | Post #2


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I being con before. DS-Max. Their lousy plan is you start as trainee -> Leader -> team leader -> assistant manager -> manager. From trainee to become leader, you need to hit weekly target. Then, as leader you can start con others to be your downlines. Once you have 5 downlines promote to team leader. As team leader, you will be entitle to suck some commision from your downlines (5%) of the daily total sales.

Assistant manager is 10%. What really make money is when you become manager. DS-max is selling many thing but whatever they are selling, you earn RM 2-3 each item they sell. Mostly the manager earn RM 1000 ++ daily

FYI, manager really earn that much. Believe it. That why they are growing. The main issue is how you can become the manager. You need at least 13 - 15 downlines. Now that the hardest part. My ex uplines have been working for more than 5 years. He has been promoted as Manager before but de promoted when your men leave the team. So from there, he keep on struggling until today. Still same not making money.

The system seem great but no guarantee. People don't like walking around selling thing. So is hard to get people. My advise is you can treat it as temporary job while hunting others. My experiencee in the company was great. We penetrate a high security building e.g military kem, Maybank and many more. Chase up by the security. Sometimes the inside people may help you also. Is a fun job but making money.

That my experience for DS-max.



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hehhe... what an experience in life... if you would like to take is as once in a lifetime experience also can...

Chase up by the security <---- this will sharpen your skill in sales and to be alert on outcome of your action. It is hard to penetrate military camp... if you could... you might have talent in sales..

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QUOTE(Ido @ May 2 2006, 02:42 PM)
I being con before. DS-Max. Their lousy plan is you start as trainee -> Leader -> team leader -> assistant manager -> manager. From trainee to become leader, you need to hit weekly target. Then, as leader you can start con others to be your downlines. Once you have 5 downlines promote to team leader. As team leader, you will be entitle to suck some commision from your downlines (5%) of the daily total sales.

Assistant manager is 10%. What really make money is when you become manager. DS-max is selling many thing but whatever they are selling, you earn RM 2-3 each item they sell. Mostly the manager earn RM 1000 ++ daily

FYI, manager really earn that much. Believe it. That why they are growing. The main issue is how you can become the manager. You need at least 13 - 15 downlines. Now that the hardest part. My ex uplines have been working for more than 5 years. He has been promoted as Manager before but de promoted when your men leave the team. So from there, he keep on struggling until today. Still same not making money.

The system seem great but no guarantee. People don't like walking around selling thing. So is hard to get people. My advise is you can treat it as temporary job while hunting others. My experiencee in the company was great. We penetrate a high security building e.g military kem, Maybank and many more. Chase up by the security. Sometimes the inside people may help you also. Is a fun job but making money.

That my experience for DS-max.






Please do not upsell DS-Max here, this is exactly how they psycho people into these jobs. For example, FYI this and that manager really made 1k daily etc and etc, but that is just him, you have to be really good to be like that... blah blah blah,

Please contribute to the society and economy by giving value not preaching get rich schemes.
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SORRY GUYS EVEN i once cheated people under company INFLUX
NOW I REALISE MY MISTAKE SORRY
MY BUSINESS CARD PE MERA DEGREE NAI LIKKHA SIRF LIKHA HAI IIT R IIM C AND FOOLISH PEOPLE FEEL I HV SOME DEGREE FROM GREAT INSTITUTE WHICH I DONT
I AM REALLY GUILTY SORRY
I THINK NOW I HV TO LEAVE MUMBAI AND STAY AT VARANASI TO GANGA KINARE PAAP DHUL JAEGE...
Hey., one thing I didnt understood after reading all these that, if this COBRA GROUP is such a big company then why cant u pepole complaint in police station... atleast why cant to make FIR's there. If not why cant u people inform to news reporters...??? So that this scandal may bright in the society na...????? Answer for my question if any that why u such people cant do...?????????? Please, dont give insensible reasons like, " Who consider even if we made FIR, our govt., cant put there strength in to this, Police men cant into action for a normal citizen complaints., etc., etc., " i dnt want to listen all this answer k., Be specific in ur reply and post in simple words., reason shud be sensible ok. Finally., also post reply for this., that is COBRA GROUP is doing their recurrments legal or illegal..????
cool guys this is good work through this platform. I am US based planning to relocate and I get this email from trisha mohan from INFLUX -saki naka and good that I researched b4 even considering to interview with them.
THEY are the cons by the name of Support Direct Pvt. Ltd. in India and are known by different name .Why a company will work with the same business in different name either they donot have a good will or they are mend to cheat, they have office in Newdelhi, in karol bagh and in patel nagar they catch other people who are doing sales and bulshiot about their co. and show big picture and hook by all wrong promise. Be careful
I worked in the company for good 2 months, ...wen i read it in the mail about the management traniee..in the mail..i literally was very happy...than i went for the interview.in the inhouse session they did'nt told..if it is a feild job..guys u knw v had a stupid Group discussion..n i was surprised to see..that everybody cleared the gd..i was in totally causals..big loops in ears..n i mean jus very causal..n i wont lie..their were many gairls who were better than me..n i knw they will get selected.pure in house mai sub puchte rahe...is it feild job or not..but they were not telling anything properly...interview hua..2 ques.puche bus..r u comfortable on travelling..n the other was wont ur parents..intrupt u any were..till tha time thay made a very nice picture..in ma mind..i came the second day..everybody welcomed me like sm princess has cum..tha was the 1st step of brainwash..they make u feell gud special n important...than ma trainer took me out..to nehru place, , she said me to observe..i did..i asked her tha..who pays for this auto...i mean company or who..pays for the travelling expense tab bhe kisse ne kuch nahe bataya..salary b 3rd day samjhae..but tab b thay did not said that it is commision based...guys mere brain wash is tarah keya...mai bata nahe sakte...those morng meeting n games..n everything mann...wen i used to perform everybody used to clap for me..n tell me who doesnt like 2 b treated well...mere trainer kept on telling me u r very efficient...agressive..u vill do gud in ths busibness..bla bla bla..they even took me to a road trip...wr i spent 3000 but cud just earn 2500..i mean..they took us to beg in other states also..vaha se ake..i used to get frustrated..bcuz it was like...agar din me ek b nahe keya to tumne rs1 b nahe kamaya...ghar se kab tak paise mango...roz rs150 khatam ho jate the...last k days to maine kaise kate hai mai apko kya batau...they..ppl...i till date i dont understand kaun sa kala jadu keya tha...me n ma 3 frens left the company left together...n later we realised that only we 3 were the quality ppl...thay had bake sare vo bihari..the jo kahe kuch nahe hota to vaha ajate hai..n vahe tikte b hai...i still feel shame on me..v used to sit at those local se dhabas on roads n rs10 ka khana kahte the... ...how cheap..i mean..i am a jounalism student..n now earning 14-15 thousand a month ..n very happy..aj 3 mahene hogae company chode but jab b hum frens milte hai v can stop cribbing about cobra...wen u lev they will say they hav sacked u...cowards..subh 7 bje ghar se nikalte the mai..n 9 bje ghar me guste the...u knw wot...only those ppl earn money in ths company who cant do anything else in the whole world..n literate ppl obviously feel shy to beg to ppl...the experience was [censored]ly bad..i totally feel screwed n cheated wen i think about the company...ths is ma story..n plz...all the literate ppl dnt go their.u r worth more tha wot they gv u...actually they dnt gv anything...u giv it to urself...u will fall sick...mentally n physically...plzz...take care...of these [censored]ing machine..called cobra...[censored] U COBRA..WE are not loosers, loosers are u..becuz u lie..i[censored] hav the got dam guts tell the truth n than make ppl work under u...than u willl b called successfull...than i will n v all will c how many ppl u are left with..its easy traping ppl...but u can make them work...earn money but not respect..1 day every1 will get to knw...about ur..truth..and than u finished...i am a journalist..i will make it a point to expose..u all...jerks..n mother[censored]ers...
GOOD going PRIYA, keep ur spirit high against these [censored]ing COBRAS . my story is even horrible than urs becoz I left d company in april last year, after working there for almost 10 months, i reached upto d level of assistant manager but thank god i realised what kind of job im doing, iam a software engineer from a reputed institute, and these mother have made me to beg in front of d entire city .
I was working in ACE mgt . in patel nagar, under [censored]R ARUN BLOODY SUD . hes a looser, he has cheated more than 50000 rs of mine n other innocent freshers .
plz
priya do somthing to expose all this, im wid u, i thing exposing these cobras wd be d biggest gift we can give to d youngsters of indian who get entraped in their co.
plz mention in which office u were working n who was ur trainees n the manager.
That i will but all the ppl...who hate cobra..and are cheated by cobra...lets meet up sumwere guys..wot say..nd plan smthng against this machine...okieee...plz...mail me at ma id..who all are intrested in this cobra back..we will meet smwr...n DO SMTHNG AGAINST.IT.BCZ I ALONE N U ALONE CNT DO ANYTHING..V NEED TO JOIN HANDS TOGETHER.
the only thing i can say to this is that all u guys up there who agree with the complaints r loosers.. big time... u'll dunt have the balls to go out there and sell and create people..bcz u'll were born poor and will die poor..i've worked with the organisation for over 4 months and hav been paid for all my deals..and yes it takes balls to run a business which most people dunt possess..thts the reason they work for others..try being a bill gates.. atleast u wont die poor.. so all u guys out there suck each others polly's.. and be happy...bcz people r minting money and buying ferraris..ALL U PEOPLE GO JOIN INFY AND GET PAID 15000 AND BE HAPPY..
LISTEN U.u are workind their ryt bcz u cnt do smthing else...got it...woteve v earn v happy wid tha atleast v knw..that wud cum to us..anyways..but cobra..they wnt evn pay ur travelling expense...u work for their money..v get only the 1/6th of n the manager get more than half of it...y to beg to ppl..or y to sell smthing to them..its bettr to open up a shop n than b happy selling it..y to slog your on the feild whole day..listen to those ppl...who doesnt even cnt stand infront o[censored]s...they utter n we hav to hear it y..they are not paying us..cumon dude 1 day u will also realise hum sub pagal nahe hai yaha p...its not important ke ap har roz feild se kuch karke he aoo..bhek b humesha nahe milte...3 din bina kuch kare aoo feild se..phr dekho...business is not for u..it is for sm1 else..who sits in Ac for the whole day n u work under that ..n u are out their in the feild.. urself wid no reasons...
Hi friends and my well wishers,

This is prashant from hyderabad. I received this from From: "Trident promotion" <ramgmt.[protected]@gmail.com>

[protected][protected][protected][protected][protected][protected]
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my friends and my well wishers, please say me how this girl Sania HR Manager looks, will she show her boobs. And please let me know whether there r nice girls in this cobra in hyderguda, so that atleast i can do aaaaaaaaaaaaa wid them.

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i dont want job in this cobra company, i want little entertainment. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

i was abt to go to this company, thn q my well wishers. i read this site and i got a lot of info.
i like girls a lot and wanted to see SANIA HR, in our area they call this reaction as SOLLLLLU rasam KARADAM.

i will stop my self to avoid this cobra beeer.

EEEEEEE COBRA chali kick istundi gurruuuuuuuu.

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&...


HI
Greetings from R.A ORGANISATION !!!

This is reference to the application which we received through monsterindia.com for the vacancies in R.A Management, one of the Australian based MNC and one of the leaders in Service industry with 100+ clients worldwide dealing with different sectors like Finance, Banking, Telecom, Sports, Energy, Charity etc.,

Our Mission is to provide leading brands a one-stop solution for all their face-to-face customer acquisition and promotional needs. We are dedicated to providing strategic acquisition solutions and generating the best possible return of investment for our clients.

Congratulations!!! Your resume has been screened from the applications and short listed for the following vacancies,

Positions: Management trainee

Role : Looking after the marketing and sale of the client, recruiting, training and developing the team, operation of the copmany and as well as financial expense flow, to futher the growth of the company

Interview Date :-17th & 18th july 09.

Time: 11.30 AM to 3.00 PM
Please call our office on[protected] am to 5 pm)or reply to this email to secure an appointment.

*Please note appointments will go for about 15 minutes

R.A is a service based company associated with the Cobra Group PLC based at 24 countries working with different sector like

finance, telecom, charities, sports, energy and hospitality, entertainment.

In India we based in 9 cities with 72 offices

Now we are expanding in Hyderabad with another 20 office to open to carter to global business needs of our clients.

kindly go through the group website www.cobragroup.com


* Kindly bring your CV and passport size photo graphs along with this email print out.

** We a looking for immediate starters only.

Land mark
Bata showroom and Tirumala Travels .

With Regards
Sania
HR Manager

R.A ORGANISATION

2nd Floor,
Above Rebi,
Lane Opp to Bharath Petrol Pump,
Hyderguda Basheer Bagh
Hyderabad-29

NOTE:We are looking for freshers and people below 2 years of experience.If this profile doesn"t suits u den just ignore the mail.
i am going to meet sania,

i am crazy but not stupid
y y y y y y y,

y my friends and well wishers, this happens only in india. does any 1 has d answer.

after seeing "kyon ki saas bhi kabi bahu thi" and "kahani ghar gar ki", people dont come into reality life and always dream of virtuality life.

I like to kick their "pichkaris" or "bambu" or "hairy guns" who gets cheated.

u pass 10th class, pass 10+2, pass graduation or PG and dont know how to find who is fraud or friend.

in this .com era, there r many people like cobra beeeer which give a nice kick on innocent asses.

but it is not to blame cobra beeeer, he is a universal perfectionist for cheating.

and we people are universal innocent who show to kiss lick and kick.

aaareeee, innocent people. when u go to any consultancy or organisation like COBRA.

few points to remember.

1) search the net.

2) go to interview (i[censored] r willing)

3) ask the security people or the sweepers or people who clean the chetta and floors of cobra, and know abt the company, ask the neighbouring shops adjacent to this organisation.

bcoz these people they watch each and every aaaaaaaaaa moment of the organization and they will educate u a little bit of it.



and please never sing "hhum honge kamyam ek din" by joining this cobra.

but sing "maan mein hain vishwas pura hain vishwas" magar COBRA mein kam n karenge 1 din.
and if the company or organisation not paying u, then leave it but dont dare to complaint to police or press and stay innocent for ever.

We Can Change The World
Tomorrow
This Could Be A Better Place
If You Don't Like What I'm
Sayin'
Then Won't You Slap My
Face . . .

Because I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
Come On
(Bad Bad-Really, Really Bad)
You Know I'm Bad, I'm Bad-
You Know It
ok ok ok ok

agreed, u want money and cobra want double money.

but where is satisfaction,

u do hard work, u burn and bring piles to ur bumps, u cry, eat little drink little for nothing.

i attended around 50 interviews. plz clap for me. but got selected for one. but this one and was very satisfied, it was ISO certified company, cabs move around the city, satisfaction was ample, incentives, only scoldings when u do process violation or give wrong answers to costomers, etc.

in this sort of company u have to work.
hi
* first thing all co.s of cobra r js exploiting mba's and their skills in the name of trainees.
* they only want labours
* they js ask "chanda" in english by beautiful faces.
* they first scrutnise who r needy and can b traped
* they dont have office infrastructre and i[censored] ask y u dont hv any cabins and cubicles dey wll say dey dnt believe in sitting jobs dat makes u lathargic...ridiculous

they r js using youths for door to door sales as name of mangaement trainee.
##############beware############
their are few more co in delhi and mumbai named as:

ACE GROUP(EAST PATEL NAGAR)
NIRVANA(MUMBAI)
DAWN EMTERPRISE(KAROL BAGH)


ALL CHEATERS...BEWARE DONT WASTE YR TYM DERE...
Today only I visited one office in Mumbai. I saw their ad on one of the job portals. The method of selection described by many ppl here is absolutely true. I was thinking to go for the second interview if they call me, but it is my fortune that i landed on this page and got to read all these useful comments. thanks a lot folks. I was about to change my field because of their tempting but fake advertisement. It is amazing how they create the ambiance of professionalism. I tried to ask the concerned person many times about the work profile but all i got were the unsatisfactory answers. Till now I am not clear what exactly the work profile is. When I entered their office in Mumbai, there were already more than 25 people like me. I was asked to fill up the form. Then the head took two to three and even four people at a time and conducted so called interview. He tried to explain with a pen and a paper but all went over my head. When I came home I searched for Cobra in google and got shocked to see this page. once again thanks so much ppl to take efforts to post the comments. I am writing my experience so i can help others are going to get tempted by cobra ads and salary package they are mentioning.
A few hours before i got call from COBRAS. They told me that have been shortlisted for the second interview. I have read all this (thank god) and I told the HR that I am not planning to join. HR's tone of speaking which is very polite and sweet before changed immediately. When she told me that i am selected for second round she spoke sweetly, "congratulations, you have been shortlisted for second interview..." When i told her that i am not joining she said ok thanks and hund the phone loudly.
hi,
this cmpny wrking in pune(senapati bapat road) also... asking for management tranee job...they offering big salaries.. so i thot it may be a fake company... so srched abot it n found so mch bad so..wil nt allow my boyfrnd to go for it ... thank you all
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