Cobra Group Of International — Cheater & flirt

 
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List of known local Cobra Group subsidiaries

1. Dreamworks Acquisition
2. JAG Group
3. Keneve Group of Companies
4. Regal Group of Companies
5. Appco S/B (Father company)
6. ESP S/B
7. Pro Enterprise (SS15 Subang Jaya)
8. Rich Marketing Group (at least this one is honest enough to put the word "marketing" lol)

Their tactics & The Truth

** Salary of RM1800-RM3000 during training and more after 6-8 months project. You won't get paid any basic salary

** Usually under the title of "Management Trainee" or "Executive Development Program". Your title is SALES PERSONNEL

** These are the same lines all Cobra Group companies use:

-- "Fresh graduates who are willing to be coached from A to Z of a company operation and hardworking- please try your luck!" Coached - Reading from same piece of paper, memorize it and tell strangers about it

-- "Promotion to Managerial positions with Regional and Overseas Career Expansion". Something like Amway's incentive tours to overseas IF you con enough people

-- "The person who think that they possess all the skills required to be a successful future manager". When they expand, they chuck you there to further con people and you will have no time for your personal life AT ALL

-- "No min working experience is required (Special on-the-job training will be provided)". They train you to talk to strangers and be beggars

** On your first day of your you will be briefed on company structure. Any AMWAY members will know this is the exact promotion structure Amway uses the moment they see it. Sales projection, get 3 leaders you become Team Leader blablabla.

** On your second day, just quit the job.

** You'll get a piece of paper on dialogues and you are expected to preach to strangers. I don't think we graduated to be beggars.

The "new" advertisement:

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Interview

** First interview will be in group interview (suspicious?)

** Second interview you will follow your "evaluator" to the field, usually in front of banks and see what they do. They will tell you "This is to test how much do you want the job" and then ask you to do the same thing: Begging & Bugging

** Third interview will be on the same day of the 2nd. You will be asked to go back by yourself to the company. WTF right?


What they slipped

** One guy used the word "downline" and "upline"

** The boss comes into the office EARLIER than everyone and leave LATER than everyone, even his secretary. Somemore he dare to use the word "TIME FREEDOM" and then say he sleep at 10.30PM.

** The structure chart. Some people who never join Amway will not see it coming because the only direct sales company to use it is Amway, and Cobra Group is applying the same thing.

** No basic pay. Tell me, which PROFESSIONAL job (as they claim) doesn't pay their employees? Like that I also wanna be the boss lar.

If you have more info of this company or companies under Cobra Group / DS-Max, add it here as they seem to be running rampant all over Jobstreet, conning degree holders from Law to Engineering fresh grads. Sadly, these people think they are doing a great job, where in fact they are earning money and being brainwashed day in day out.

From Wikipedia (Credits: Polaris)

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Cobra slash DS MAX is in wikipedia, their infamous ways are well known all over the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DS-MAX

One of the most common complaints about DS-Max affiliated companies is in their recruiting and advertising practices. Often the position is advertised as an "entry level management position", and claims to operate in any number of glamorous, competitive, high profile, industries ranging from pro sports and entertainment to 4 star restaurants and world travel, when in reality the position is that of a door-to-door salesperson who peddles pizza coupons, discount baseball tickets, 5 dollar umbrellas, designer knock-off hand bags, and travel alarm clocks, none of which the applicant will actually discover until they are out "in the field" with a distributor on their "second interview".

A common interviewing formula used by the independent sales offices consists of:

1. A very short first round interview conducted in the office of the manager. Typically in this interview the manager will briefly outline the structure of the business to the potential new distributor. A typical DS-Max manager will interview anywhere from 10 to 30 people a day so this first interview is usually short on detail and any prolonged question and answer sessions are avoided if possible.

2. A full day "second interview" in the sales field where the potential distributor shadows a current distributor while they attempt to sell their products or services door-to-door. This full day interview is an attempt to show the potential distributor how a typical day in the field works. This full day interview, like the first interview is purposefully vague on details and most questions are not answered fully or more difficult questions get passed on to the manager/owner to handle during the final interview. This is known within DS-MAX circles as the "Day of Observation" or the "Day of O".

3. A "final interview" takes place in the manager's office when the potential distributor returns after a full day in the field. If the applicant has any problems or objections, the manager may attempt to overturn them. If the potential distributor needs some clarification in order to understand the "big picture" of this business opportunity the manager will attempt to explain the business beyond just selling products door-to-door. The goal of every manager is to encourage the interviewee to start full time the very next day.

The name DS-Max is often used to refer to the whole distribution system that includes DS-Max USA Inc., its affiliated suppliers and independent offices. Each affiliated sales office is an independent and incorporated business.

This legal separation between the DS-Max supplying organizations and each individual office insulates DS-Max from any legal or financial liability should something happen within an individual office.

Because all sales offices are independently owned and operated each individual distributor and manager/owner reaps the rewards of and is both financially and legally responsible for his own business. The majority of all distributors work as independent contractors and thus are not paid a salary, receive no health benefits and are responsible for paying their own taxes.

The DS-Max system runs similarly to network marketing businesses but with several key differences:

1) Sales representatives (distributors) generally work full-time (often six days, 60 hours or more a week), relying on their sales for their primary source of income, rather than a slow transition from part-time to full-time.

2) The individual owner assumes the cost and advertises for new distributors and finds a mentor for them, rather than the distributor absorbing the cost of recruiting.

3) Distributors receive the products on consignment rather than paying for them up front and there is no fee for becoming a distributor.

The business only grows when new distributors are added. While DS-Max as a whole has grown quite large through the years, the vast majority of distributors and managers in affiliated distribution operations in the DS-Max system have not enjoyed success. In the 20 plus years of operation the Ds-max business model has generated some tremendous success for a small group of Vice-Presidents, or as they are referred to now, National Consultants, but the question of how many have found success in Ds-max compared to the number who have attempted to achieve success can only be answered by analyzing accurate, detailed records of these organizations and their affiliates. However the nature of their operations make it unlikely that such documentation exists.

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Ido May 2 2006, 02:42 PM Show posts by this member only |Rating BETA (0+, 0-) | Post #2


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I being con before. DS-Max. Their lousy plan is you start as trainee -> Leader -> team leader -> assistant manager -> manager. From trainee to become leader, you need to hit weekly target. Then, as leader you can start con others to be your downlines. Once you have 5 downlines promote to team leader. As team leader, you will be entitle to suck some commision from your downlines (5%) of the daily total sales.

Assistant manager is 10%. What really make money is when you become manager. DS-max is selling many thing but whatever they are selling, you earn RM 2-3 each item they sell. Mostly the manager earn RM 1000 ++ daily

FYI, manager really earn that much. Believe it. That why they are growing. The main issue is how you can become the manager. You need at least 13 - 15 downlines. Now that the hardest part. My ex uplines have been working for more than 5 years. He has been promoted as Manager before but de promoted when your men leave the team. So from there, he keep on struggling until today. Still same not making money.

The system seem great but no guarantee. People don't like walking around selling thing. So is hard to get people. My advise is you can treat it as temporary job while hunting others. My experiencee in the company was great. We penetrate a high security building e.g military kem, Maybank and many more. Chase up by the security. Sometimes the inside people may help you also. Is a fun job but making money.

That my experience for DS-max.



masterinternet May 2 2006, 02:57 PM Show posts by this member only |Rating BETA (0+, 0-) | Post #3


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hehhe... what an experience in life... if you would like to take is as once in a lifetime experience also can...

Chase up by the security <---- this will sharpen your skill in sales and to be alert on outcome of your action. It is hard to penetrate military camp... if you could... you might have talent in sales..

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Pasta Guy May 2 2006, 05:29 PM Show posts by this member only |Rating BETA (0+, 0-) | Post #4


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QUOTE(Ido @ May 2 2006, 02:42 PM)
I being con before. DS-Max. Their lousy plan is you start as trainee -> Leader -> team leader -> assistant manager -> manager. From trainee to become leader, you need to hit weekly target. Then, as leader you can start con others to be your downlines. Once you have 5 downlines promote to team leader. As team leader, you will be entitle to suck some commision from your downlines (5%) of the daily total sales.

Assistant manager is 10%. What really make money is when you become manager. DS-max is selling many thing but whatever they are selling, you earn RM 2-3 each item they sell. Mostly the manager earn RM 1000 ++ daily

FYI, manager really earn that much. Believe it. That why they are growing. The main issue is how you can become the manager. You need at least 13 - 15 downlines. Now that the hardest part. My ex uplines have been working for more than 5 years. He has been promoted as Manager before but de promoted when your men leave the team. So from there, he keep on struggling until today. Still same not making money.

The system seem great but no guarantee. People don't like walking around selling thing. So is hard to get people. My advise is you can treat it as temporary job while hunting others. My experiencee in the company was great. We penetrate a high security building e.g military kem, Maybank and many more. Chase up by the security. Sometimes the inside people may help you also. Is a fun job but making money.

That my experience for DS-max.






Please do not upsell DS-Max here, this is exactly how they psycho people into these jobs. For example, FYI this and that manager really made 1k daily etc and etc, but that is just him, you have to be really good to be like that... blah blah blah,

Please contribute to the society and economy by giving value not preaching get rich schemes.

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Mulle ki daud masjid tak...? What else can u Cobraites or ex-cobraites think beyond 'f**k'?
Proves me right...but u didnt mention...her or her mom...
Putting the facts forth does not mean what u r saying...people have got to know that without the term 'f""k', Cobra does not exist...

So it doesn't come as a surprise when u immediately switch over to this term, i.e. 'f**k'...

Keep doing...and thinking of that...it's not going to matter to Minal or her mum...

I also have a sister and i can imagine how much it hurts when character assassination is being carried out...I am not even in the city in which Minal is...

I have got to know ur mentality now...So, it actually does not matter whatever u vomit about anyone...
U used the "F" word more than what i did...bahut yarana lagta hain...tughme...penguin main...& minal main...har baar bachav ke liye aa jata hain...u guys used to have threesum ...oops sorry foursum ( frgt her mom) or what...
BTW... u joined in mumbai right...still know a lot about how ppl think in parwati estate pune...Ms. Penguin ooh sorry Minal...ohh sorry again trishu...heheheheh
none other than punit's aka's cutegirl's team member had told about this...u keep on getting jumbled about 3 identities...carry on...carry on...keep on figuring out who had told about parwati induatrial estate...
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...I will share one more coincidence...penguin works at IKC (refer to her mail id on page 23)...& so does minal

(http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=70178148&authType=NAME_SEARCH&a...

STRANGE NA...hehehehehehehe
strange for u... :-)
5 ex-cobraites work with ikc at present...keep on getting jumbled...
List of known local Cobra Group subsidiaries

1. Dreamworks Acquisition
2. JAG Group
3. Keneve Group of Companies
4. Regal Group of Companies
5. Appco S/B (Father company)
6. ESP S/B
7. Pro Enterprise (SS15 Subang Jaya)
8. Rich Marketing Group (at least this one is honest enough to put the word "marketing" lol)

Their tactics & The Truth

** Salary of RM1800-RM3000 during training and more after 6-8 months project. You won't get paid any basic salary

** Usually under the title of "Management Trainee" or "Executive Development Program". Your title is SALES PERSONNEL

** These are the same lines all Cobra Group companies use:

-- "Fresh graduates who are willing to be coached from A to Z of a company operation and hardworking- please try your luck!" Coached - Reading from same piece of paper, memorize it and tell strangers about it

-- "Promotion to Managerial positions with Regional and Overseas Career Expansion". Something like Amway's incentive tours to overseas IF you con enough people

-- "The person who think that they possess all the skills required to be a successful future manager". When they expand, they chuck you there to further con people and you will have no time for your personal life AT ALL

-- "No min working experience is required (Special on-the-job training will be provided)". They train you to talk to strangers and be beggars

** On your first day of your you will be briefed on company structure. Any AMWAY members will know this is the exact promotion structure Amway uses the moment they see it. Sales projection, get 3 leaders you become Team Leader blablabla.

** On your second day, just quit the job.

** You'll get a piece of paper on dialogues and you are expected to preach to strangers. I don't think we graduated to be beggars.

The "new" advertisement:

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Interview

** First interview will be in group interview (suspicious?)

** Second interview you will follow your "evaluator" to the field, usually in front of banks and see what they do. They will tell you "This is to test how much do you want the job" and then ask you to do the same thing: Begging & Bugging

** Third interview will be on the same day of the 2nd. You will be asked to go back by yourself to the company. WTF right?


What they slipped

** One guy used the word "downline" and "upline"

** The boss comes into the office EARLIER than everyone and leave LATER than everyone, even his secretary. Somemore he dare to use the word "TIME FREEDOM" and then say he sleep at 10.30PM.

** The structure chart. Some people who never join Amway will not see it coming because the only direct sales company to use it is Amway, and Cobra Group is applying the same thing.

** No basic pay. Tell me, which PROFESSIONAL job (as they claim) doesn't pay their employees? Like that I also wanna be the boss lar.

If you have more info of this company or companies under Cobra Group / DS-Max, add it here as they seem to be running rampant all over Jobstreet, conning degree holders from Law to Engineering fresh grads. Sadly, these people think they are doing a great job, where in fact they are earning money and being brainwashed day in day out.

From Wikipedia (Credits: Polaris)

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «QUOTE
Cobra slash DS MAX is in wikipedia, their infamous ways are well known all over the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DS-MAX

One of the most common complaints about DS-Max affiliated companies is in their recruiting and advertising practices. Often the position is advertised as an "entry level management position", and claims to operate in any number of glamorous, competitive, high profile, industries ranging from pro sports and entertainment to 4 star restaurants and world travel, when in reality the position is that of a door-to-door salesperson who peddles pizza coupons, discount baseball tickets, 5 dollar umbrellas, designer knock-off hand bags, and travel alarm clocks, none of which the applicant will actually discover until they are out "in the field" with a distributor on their "second interview".

A common interviewing formula used by the independent sales offices consists of:

1. A very short first round interview conducted in the office of the manager. Typically in this interview the manager will briefly outline the structure of the business to the potential new distributor. A typical DS-Max manager will interview anywhere from 10 to 30 people a day so this first interview is usually short on detail and any prolonged question and answer sessions are avoided if possible.

2. A full day "second interview" in the sales field where the potential distributor shadows a current distributor while they attempt to sell their products or services door-to-door. This full day interview is an attempt to show the potential distributor how a typical day in the field works. This full day interview, like the first interview is purposefully vague on details and most questions are not answered fully or more difficult questions get passed on to the manager/owner to handle during the final interview. This is known within DS-MAX circles as the "Day of Observation" or the "Day of O".

3. A "final interview" takes place in the manager's office when the potential distributor returns after a full day in the field. If the applicant has any problems or objections, the manager may attempt to overturn them. If the potential distributor needs some clarification in order to understand the "big picture" of this business opportunity the manager will attempt to explain the business beyond just selling products door-to-door. The goal of every manager is to encourage the interviewee to start full time the very next day.

The name DS-Max is often used to refer to the whole distribution system that includes DS-Max USA Inc., its affiliated suppliers and independent offices. Each affiliated sales office is an independent and incorporated business.

This legal separation between the DS-Max supplying organizations and each individual office insulates DS-Max from any legal or financial liability should something happen within an individual office.

Because all sales offices are independently owned and operated each individual distributor and manager/owner reaps the rewards of and is both financially and legally responsible for his own business. The majority of all distributors work as independent contractors and thus are not paid a salary, receive no health benefits and are responsible for paying their own taxes.

The DS-Max system runs similarly to network marketing businesses but with several key differences:

1) Sales representatives (distributors) generally work full-time (often six days, 60 hours or more a week), relying on their sales for their primary source of income, rather than a slow transition from part-time to full-time.

2) The individual owner assumes the cost and advertises for new distributors and finds a mentor for them, rather than the distributor absorbing the cost of recruiting.

3) Distributors receive the products on consignment rather than paying for them up front and there is no fee for becoming a distributor.

The business only grows when new distributors are added. While DS-Max as a whole has grown quite large through the years, the vast majority of distributors and managers in affiliated distribution operations in the DS-Max system have not enjoyed success. In the 20 plus years of operation the Ds-max business model has generated some tremendous success for a small group of Vice-Presidents, or as they are referred to now, National Consultants, but the question of how many have found success in Ds-max compared to the number who have attempted to achieve success can only be answered by analyzing accurate, detailed records of these organizations and their affiliates. However the nature of their operations make it unlikely that such documentation exists.

This post has been edited by Acey: Sep 12 2006, 01:50 PM



Ido May 2 2006, 02:42 PM Show posts by this member only |Rating BETA (0+, 0-) | Post #2


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I being con before. DS-Max. Their lousy plan is you start as trainee -> Leader -> team leader -> assistant manager -> manager. From trainee to become leader, you need to hit weekly target. Then, as leader you can start con others to be your downlines. Once you have 5 downlines promote to team leader. As team leader, you will be entitle to suck some commision from your downlines (5%) of the daily total sales.

Assistant manager is 10%. What really make money is when you become manager. DS-max is selling many thing but whatever they are selling, you earn RM 2-3 each item they sell. Mostly the manager earn RM 1000 ++ daily

FYI, manager really earn that much. Believe it. That why they are growing. The main issue is how you can become the manager. You need at least 13 - 15 downlines. Now that the hardest part. My ex uplines have been working for more than 5 years. He has been promoted as Manager before but de promoted when your men leave the team. So from there, he keep on struggling until today. Still same not making money.

The system seem great but no guarantee. People don't like walking around selling thing. So is hard to get people. My advise is you can treat it as temporary job while hunting others. My experiencee in the company was great. We penetrate a high security building e.g military kem, Maybank and many more. Chase up by the security. Sometimes the inside people may help you also. Is a fun job but making money.

That my experience for DS-max.
@younster

These people pay taxes as well so can not take any actions against them. They say these companies provide marketing and advertise services under that they are running there business.

We should take some actions against the NGO's bcoz its all about there business.

Bcoz the brackge of the amount they accept is:

CRY

For one chiledren : 1200
In this 1200 the person can earn 200 then owner take 100 or more than that. Then chairperson or any other owner takes 100 then support direct takes 60.

Out of 1200 these childrens get near about 100 or 200 out of 1200...


So think about these NGO's transactions.


Then also these organization pays very good amout to there employees.
CRy pays more than 40000 to Managers so they can earn through thses type of donations only...

We should take some actions against these types of NGO's first...




People in Cobra Group teach others to lie :
there FIve steps are

INTRODUCTION: Means ask permission to person to enter in the house if the doner says no then ask for water or something... How come these people ask their new joinees to enter any house without any information about the next person...

PRESENTAION: Inthis people give information about the NGO...

SHRT STORY: In this people take any odd figure or numer and tell about thses chilfdren are dying bcoz of somthing ...give donation for that...
In every season they change there story like in

rainy season : Childrens are dying bcoz of rain
Winter: Childrens are dying bcoz of cold
Summer : Childrens are dying bcoz of heat

On public holiday they say this is special campian for this day...

All this is bullsheet...

At least now youngster shoul read this information before joining.
hiiiiiiiiii guys..did is hemant rautela,
i m not saying dat u ought to be do dis job...but atleast u can attend the interview...becoz the process of taking interview dat is very ameable...and u can get preety expirience about interview...and about job profile...so if u wll start job there so u can come 2 know dat how to convience the people n how to entrtain them...so atleast marketing wale to karo yaar
kuch time ke liye...k thanxxxxx...n all the best 4 u bright future...and if anyone want to mess with me so they can contact me at 7798237505...n i m not an employee of dis company
hey guys,
history is proof of how we Indians f@#ked each other always and thats why the English invaded our and made us slaves I been working with this company giving up my good job in an MNC, what i liked here was people who had energy of a bull, the non political environment, no boss...( I remember how my senior is to take my royally in my previous job and i couldnt even scream}
so be happy that there is a company which has come forth and provided oppurtunity to 2500 people and raised their expectations from being a middle class employee to actually being an employer.
You mother f@#cking swines cannot fight the corrupt politics in the country where corrupt leaders are f@#cking your mom everyday, corrupt systems which doesnt allow people a decent meal for weeks,
your cases pending in courts for years, children begging naked on the streets, women being raped Your bombed every other day, Pakistan Openly Molesting us ... YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT RIGHT ???????, so you want to come to a blog and remove your frustration on people who are atleast providing some oppurtunity to people.
Come on lets wake up and make India shine so what if you couldnt do well in these business try something else lets get progressive and have a common goal .to not let India again become a slave again

Everyone who played cricket didnt get selected by the cricket board of India so I understand people talking bad about the system because they couldnt make it.
but I never seen Sachin ever complaining because he worked hard and made it
recently on a show Vinod Kambli accused the board and even Sachin for him not doing well
Who Will you still listen to SACHIN or Kambli ?????
Performance makes the difference so stop cribbing and do something good for yourself and this country
Atleast dont put people and their hard work down by speaking rubbish ...
I understand why we INDIANS lag behind because we been so badly F@#cked by everyone we dont trust anyone now
but there is still hope lets build a strong nation by contributing something and not pulling each other down by coming out of our INDIAN CRAB MENTALITY... JAI HIND
woooowww.. its really amazing how much crap people can write when they are totally jobless and frustated..
gives me immense pleasure to realize that i am not one among you people..
but what i dont realize is that how is it anyones concern what CAR AMIT BAID uses or with whom he is having an affair...??????
totally it doesnt matter if he is staying in a rented house or an owned one...

ALL THAT REALLY MATTERS IS THAT HOW HARDWORKING YOU GUYS ARE AND YES HE NEVER SAID THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO REST YOUR ASSES AND THEN EARN 14 TO 40K...
and bdw its not begging.. its simply marketing face to face..
too bad if u people don have self respect and ask people for money like beggars.. because clearly thats not the job..
and if u are coming on a zero everyday just shows u ain't working hard enough or clearly theres a problem in you and you need retraining...
so stop cribbing like cry babies now and find better stuff to do...
@priya420

It concerns what CAR AMIT BAID uses bcoz if he says that his monathly income is 4 to 5 then why he uses that car people join this organization for this income only...
I worked with him and I know how he uses people to make money... He is liying to each and every one over there...
If he is earning 4 to 5 lack why he is telling his income to every one ...have you seen any software eng or any other proff who tell his salary to every one...no right...

About marketing ...just think for which product you are doing marketing charity...
You are showing any fake picture in friont of doner and ask for money is that good...or begging...

About his personal affair ...i think so you are new in this business...AMIT can f*** any girl for his business if that girl wants to...I know his character very well...so babes be aware of AMIT...
@ samantha...

will all ahave to take very strick action against all this ...

Y this people are spoiling some1's future????

U all people (COBRA)stop doing this thing to innocent people... otherwise you all have to suffer for this...

n all please dont get indulge with these cheaters... they are not going to pay a single rupee to any one.. they are just using for there pocket.

so PLEASE PLEASE DONT GO THERE FOR INTERVIEW AS WELL...
@younster

they respect there profession ...as they are doing very good socail work...
These cobea people teach younster to enter in any society with fake name and ask for donation and if the got caught then they have to listen very good words from watchmans some they take thses youngster to poloce station as well...
This is crime without any permission how these people can take entry to any society... they call this thing as GATE CRASH and they feel proud about that...

These cobra people teach that people should respect there profession...what begging profession...
Amit says dont fight with anyone if any watch man sya something then just ignore them...its like

JO DE USKA BHI BHALA JO NA DE USKA BHI BHALA...


How can these people respect there profession...
@ samantha

ya u are right...

they send people on SUNDAY and call it as a most fun loving day..

they fool everyone..
i dnt knw abt amit bt ya kshitij, abhishek and all these people are doing the same.
i send people to road trip n tell evry one that company will pay for this activity but no they dont pay a single money n also take the 100 RS from people for late coming...

see wat a standard they have ..
n they are dreaming for HONDA CITY...

we can imagine how fool they are n how they are makng other's fool...
Yes...
In Pune Amit Baid is dreaming about ferrari...

how they can imagine buying these vehicle on other people money i dont know...
educated Bhikari's
ya really they are EDUCATED BHIKHARI... i thnk this quality they have in there BLOOD... such BLOODY BHIKHARI'S... who so ever they are let it b AMIT, KSHITIJ, HIREN, ABHISHEK or SAI...

All are PROFESSIONAL BHIHARI'S...

:-)

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