[Resolved]  Networkers Guru — Useless Teaching

Address:Gurgaon, Haryana

Whatever Seemed to be a Fairly Good institute , with Warm welcoming people Suddenly turned bad then to worse in a matter of Few days when We Demanded a Proper Faculty to teach us CCNA as the present faculty was more interested in receiving her Calls and Utilizing most of our class time over her personal issues over the phone , But , the topic here is not that , the point is even though she was with her calls most of the time still , for the rest of the time she proved a Sub-Standard Teacher as well , with the Below par range of her abilities to teach . Any Newby would Feel Thrilled by the way of their teaching as they tend to Glide over the Subject without making any effort to explain why things are happening the way it is . So , Non the Less on My very First 3 class , i was sure , it was difficult to Clear the Cisco Exam if she teaches the was she teaches , which lead us to the Owner of the institute Mr. Pradeep , who seemed a Genuine guy who wanted to Help But , unfortunately could not as he does not seem to be around there some times . So , Some more Talks with the people 2nd in Line to Pradeep sir like , Mr. Ravi , who is probably a Peon dressed as someone important there . Well , talks with him Encouraged us that some change would happen and we would Get a Good Faculty and also , we would Get to Do the Labs now ( as No lab time was being provided as , most of the time routers seems to be down due to power failure or faulty routers are used ) . But , Mr. Ravi turned out as Useless a Man as i thought he would be and he does not deserve more words than these.
So , Bottom line is , NETWORKERS GURU , may be a Good institute as they Claim BUT as of my Experience , i Believe it is not worth the Money.


P.S - The Funniest thing about NG is the Women responsible to take calls and provide information about the insti a " Punjabi girl " , Instead Persists on Insisting working people to Get Her a Job at their company. Unbelievable


These are My View from my Personal Experience , i would request anyone who differs to write why and give a genuine review so that people gets benifited here.
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Hi Boss, May be i am disagree with you . i have done ccnp from networkers guru. my opinion is different from networkers guru. I have received best quality and lab from there.
I strongly disagree from you...

Dear if you have guts to say something wrong about anyone dont you have the guts to show your identity... Attacking anyone from back is easier but facing them i think is not at all easy task for you... N one more thing before saying anything about anyone else just first check out yourself were you having that level of mind and were you making any efforts to study...

N the person who is handling the office may b a punjabi girl or whatever why it matters you . she is doing her work you were there to study not to check that who is handling the office.N the last thing you are no one to judge what the other person should wear and what not...

so first look at yourself because we also have done ccna from there and we came to know in demo class only given by trainer that she have the best method and quality n also got it n even we saw all the trainers to be very dedicated...
Fortune007's reply, Apr 26, 2019
i think you got great training but i am chasing them like dog for rescheduling my class and no solution provided, fully Froud people, my money wasted, no support provided from Network Guru, team.
Hi i cannot agree more with you. Mr. Ravi is what you said he is and more than that he knows nothing else or does anything. regarding teaching i did my ccnp from here but after completing i feel i have not learnt anything. I could not pass exam as could not answer Q as was not taught properly. there is no router or switch that can be used for practice. how can one learn technology practicing on simulators. its really sad and very bad. my other friends are doing from there and they ABUSE me for suggesting them NETWORKER GURU. they want to leave also but Mr. Ravi made them pay total money for the course already. my friends tell me that both the other people who have made comments have not done ccnp or ccna from there , one i doing lab (YYARTH1245) and other is a teacher. They also promise you jobs when you come to join but after collecting money they dont do anything. i am sure no one who has studied from NETWORKER GURU has got any good job. if someone has got then pls write and reply.
Mr. Pradeep is dual CCIE but he does nt take any classes, he always says ok ho jaiyaga , dont worry but in the end nothing is done. My friends who are still there tell me some teachers there are not even certified ccnp . how can they teach ?????? any new student should check the certification of the faculty. i will tell you , we had classes 4 days one week and all days we had new face teaching. Ha ha how funny is this. no one knows what is going on there , who is teaching , what he/she is teaching, how long is teaching,
This place is crazy, no electricity back up.
some of the faculty are not even certified CCNP , so how can they teach you, they are not qualified. new students should check if their teacher is certified by CISCO. it is hell there. if i had known that my teacher is not cisco certified then i would asked for refund. there is no schedule there sometime there are classes other time no classes. one time you sit with one batch for a topic and other time with some other batch for another topic. you ask them question in class they say that will let you know tomm. i feel they study and come for the class, therefore they cannot answer new questions. i will have to do again but not from NG thank you.
I completely Agree, that Networkers Guru keeping the student in dark. When you go for admission in Networkers Guru a lady will show u the dream She'll completely change your mind!!! she says to every one that if you go for CCIE training we'll give you the 100% Job Assistance and package would be 5.5 Lac to 8 Lac Per Annam.

It's a scam. No one would pay such salary for a fresher.
GUYS..., this was a complete honest review and not about some Clothes and Religion ( Please, i mentioned Punjabi girl so that people would know who i am talking about ) And, yes, If someone tells me...that Classes are good then, there can be only one reason for that as i mentioned earlier ( People who are freshers would be thrilled coz. they hardly know whats what of networking, and i can say this as i am Experienced in this Industry and wanted to get in the groove by once again going for CCNA so that things would freshen up a bit and get me in the groove for CCNP and CCIE Anyway, @ uurvashi and yyatharth --- Good for Both of you if you got something out of it.

@ XngStudent -- dude, though we both share the same belief but there are somethings i dont agree ( maybe due to diff. batchs ) our batch Timing was Allright, Schedule was also maintained and we (ie, me and the rest of guys ) Stayed in the same batch, there was no batch hijacking, Guess, You Unfortunately got a Real bad Batch too along with average teacher and the Famous Powercuts with No Backups...!!!
and though Uurvashi does not sound like a teacher from NB as most of the teachers there were good with their English language and urvashi seems to be kind of lagging behind and her comments suggest that maybe she is not even a Student there ( forget about good/bad reviews ) considering her terrible thoughts or whatever. Maybe it is the Girl who is always at the desk doing something on her computer ..!!! anyway...

@yyarth1245 -- Good for you dude..!!!

@Uurvashi -- Your comments were more on me then on my content " Look at yourself ", " Level of mind ", My God you make me laugh, i am Ignoring your Foolishness as well as Request You and Everyone that, These are my Personal Reviews, My Experience ( and My batchs too, where NG lost 100% students of My batch ), Everyone here is invited to Differ Or Agree With me But in a Much Sensible way Citing the Reasons so that Guys who want to Get into NG can Get a basic Idea...of the Deal..!!!
Hi Shanedude.. yes you are right Uurvashi is not the teacher she is infact the receptionist and she has only seen people like us being ripped of money and time day in n out and has got nothing to do with studying CCNA .. maybe Mr. Pradeep made her write her English Vinglish reply.
Yes dude you agree or not but my experience stays in my bitter memory and if anyone agrees or disagrees it will reduce my pain and frustration.
I am also with 2 year experience and can evaluate the standard of teaching.
guess what my friend tells me that there are couple of CCIE lab attempted (not passed) guys teaching at the institute... is this suppose to be right, they are not qualified to teach .. God only knows what the standard would be. well i am out and done with them.. good luck to others who dare to join.
Good luck to you too dude, even if i was not on your drowing boat, well be assured i was right behind yours.
you are totally right my friend, pradeep has good knowledge but he is busy with himself only in clearing ccie voice or sp, he has no time for his students, that is the reason that 15 students of his ccie security track failed, not even a single get to clear the lab.
I guess you do knowforsure what is haapenning there. It is hard to believe that so many people are unhappy with the current arrangements at NG. Do you all think that Pradeep is aware of the situation and if he is then why is he not doing anything. In case he is reading this post then he may realise the problems.
I cant believe 15 students failed ccie track how did he manage to get such a big batch, i thought 4 for 5 were in the batch, thats a bad result, although it is tough to pass lab but atleast one of them should have passed. At one time i had also agreed with them to do ccie but thank god i only did ccnp and not any more. i would be 15 +1 in that way. My friends there are also leaving after ccnp voice and not doing ccie, but they are told that after completing ccnp pradeep will get them jobs 4-5 lacs. They were really happy but they dont know that nothing will happen its only false promises, like they gave to me. i feel such a fool really believing all they said and how i parted with my parents hard earned money to do the course. ok
i think the review is a little biased. there is no doubt in mr pradeeps ability as a trainer he has a lot of experience on field and is very good with explaining concepts. he's definitely better than all the other trainers around. his sidekick is also very good but lacks experience on field but none the less he is also a superb trainer with a lot of knowledge. the problem i think is with management and infrastructure. also the ccna trainers have very bad knowledge and sometimes they are confused them self. the famous punjabi girl is very sweet but has no manners. mr ravi does a very bad job with setting up batches as he promises some timing and he gives a different timing. the infrastructure is also bad as power cuts are very frequent in gurgaon. they have a generator set but i think it is only there as a showpiece. the institute is very hot as they dont have a working AC and it also smells like in class room. i have no complaint regarding the lab they have plenty of devices. i have talked to one of the failed ccie security student he claimed that the training was good but right before there exam there was some big change in exam so they all failed. he also added that about 500 students failed around the globe so its not pradeeps fault. overall i strongly disagree that the whole training is useless but i do agree that NG is far from the best cisco institute.
Hi Mrccie there was never any doubt that Pradeep is very good but the problem is he cannot be present every where after all he is as human as we all are and needs a break too, therefore you are spot on with the analysis that the management is bad, the selection of trainers and also the organisation handled by Ravi are drowing the reputation of NG. Ravi's other name should be "disorganised" he is forever confused and shows no urgency for imp matters.all he does well is control the water boys. I guess no one else listens to him.
yes i agree the ac's dont work with so many appliances running atleast Pradeep should ensure that the area is chilled. confort level is important and these small things should be taken care off. with temp upto 40 deg outside we 8 students use to sweat inside that cramped room. impossible.

Its a one man show at NG and when he shows no interest then that place is sure to collapse. as a welll wisher i hope Pradeep reads these comments and acts fast before all is gone and dusted.

and the other thing why blame the famous Punjabi girl, she is only doing her job to sell as many seats as possible, is the rest who are not performing.

Yes my friends told me there were some changes in the lab and is difficult to clear CCIE but dont you think in order to overcome this issue we joined NG and not networker Bulls. Pradeep was the factor and i am also not blaming him for the failure its a cumulative failure.
but still i would claim the training given to me was surely not up to the mark.
Am i missing something, we are talking about a Coaching institute that takes nearly about Rs 2L for CCIE Security COACHING ( Full Coaching, full syllabus taught ) and if the students says that they were not able to pass the exam due to some change in question pattern, then the argument sounds absolutely Stupid . This is CCIE please.
Let me put it this way :
2 Lacs + 10 months + Full Cisco syllabus ( Syllabus did not change, it was the same ) and the students fail coz. dear old cisco asked some new questions in a way that the students were not expecting to see . Common, we are talking about INTER-NETWORK EXPERT Exam here and regarding the fault, then there are only 2 people to be blamed here, either the person who taught ccie security, coz, maybe he did not teach the total syllabus and hence was not able to give the entire concepts, which is what i think happened Or, maybe the students took this exam a bit casually and hence the results . Which Goes on to show that the institute is just not worth it and yes, over all the whole training is Useless ( Maybe, eh, i am not sure, coz. i never took ccie training from there But, yes, it looks useless though )
Hey Shanedude... I have read your earlier comments, where I agree with some of your suggestions and observations I also disagree with many other observations and comments, specially one made in your last post. You have no idea by how much you are missing here, cause they say “Little knowledge is dangerous” in your case I would say is disastrous.

Let me start by asking you what do you know about CCIE security Lab exam n Prep, considering your limited background of being half qualified and unsatisfied CCNP I believe you should be the last person making these utterly irresponsible comments about the Trainer ( dual CCIE Pradeep) and a bunch of extremely talented students aspiring to be CCIE security certified.

Now let me get the facts straight for your immediate reference, I am sure you would have heard of CCIE factory called Networkers H**e ( I guess you must have approached them but not be able to afford their fees), during the month of June July they had sensational string where at least over 2 dozen students cleared the lab, they further sensationalised the news by advertising it on their site. then came the month of august and cisco put their foot down by changing core issues and critical config and brought about a new topology which surprised not only NG but also the rest of the world. for next 6 weeks or more no one managed to clear the lab. The post lab results ( % in each of 8 sections, specially IPS (now i am not talking about Indian Police Service as you would think) ) adjudged by CISCO were similar for all no matter which part of the world they belonged to. (you or anyone else can check the blogs during this period :" I quote unquote one " it looks like CISCO does not want anyone to pass anymore before V4"

The above said factory stopped advertising the results, because it started to show a visible gap in their advertised competency. NG, Pradeep n the set of extraordinary students who had their lab exam scheduled in this period unfortunately got caught in the middle of this un expected change of events. I think you need to retract your statement as neither the trainer or the trainee were at fault. It was a mere case of being at a wrong place at a wrong time ( reference to the lab exam) if it would have been a month earlier all of them would have cleared and you would be the first person queuing outside NG with an apology letter in your hand for what you have mentioned on this blog and reference letter for a seat in the institute.

I will not argue here with the price quoted by you as its the institutes prerogative to decide the price but yes I do agree that the syllabus did not change and full course was committed.what do you think this lab exam is like, its LIKE LOOKING FOR INTO AN OCEAN, FYI it is the 2nd toughest exam to clear in the world after some CA qualification o[censored]S ( you can confirm just Google if you can) and by the way Lab exam does not come in form of questions ( as PER your limited knowledge) instead they want to you to derive logical solutions. I don’t wish to get more technical here as you may not comprehend the text but I must insist that in field of networking there can be numerous logical solutions to a problem but in the end it is Cisco and its ethical code that decides what is correct.

I am happy for you that you did not take CCIE training please take my priceless advice don’t even think about taking one in the future given that you have no clue what it takes to prepare for the lab. Let me re assure you it is not a question paper with multiple choice questions like you think. It is for intelligent people to attempt and not one stupid DUDE like you.

Be careful about casting aspersions on credibility and competency of people you have not interacted with. You never know when you would have to dirty your hands connecting wires by order of one these students. One last free advice make sure you know how to distinguish between straight and cross wires because as a person you don’t look straight to me and let me tell you there are many who are absolutely cross with.
@dheerajverman -- Okey, So if whatever you said is true regarding this time CCIE lab attempt then that calls for an Apology .
Yes, it is a fact that i have not even ever attempted a ccie lab exam, as i am busy with my ccnp ..., so, thanks for your Priceless knowledge, as the information we got from you is bit more trusted considering the fact that it comes from your experience with your Lab exam .

Apart from that what do i make of your character / your background / your intentions when you make a comments like these :
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- your limited background of being half qualified and unsatisfied CCNP
- I am sure you would have heard of CCIE factory called Networkers H**e ( I guess you must have approached them but not be able to afford their fees)
- IPS (now i am not talking about Indian Police Service as you would think)
- you would be the first person queuing outside NG with an apology letter in your hand for what you have mentioned on this blog and reference letter for a seat in the institute.
- It is for intelligent people to attempt and not one stupid DUDE like you.
- One last free advice make sure you know how to distinguish between straight and cross wires because as a person you don’t look straight to me and let me tell you there are many who are absolutely cross with.
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Stop Being a Jerk, Why Would You say Such things to me ??
So, next time if you have anything Constructive to say " SAY it But Please be ON the Topic " .
Hi @dude

I am glad you have agreed to apologise but it seems you have only called for an apology rather than actually apologising to the extra talented students and to the trainer.
As for me being a called jerk and pointed for digressing from the topic and why would I say such things to you, it is because :-

I would like to refresh your memory by referring you to your initial post where you have stooped so low by doing character assassination of girl who is just doing her job. Did you realise that your comments which were well beyond the topic you chose would have jeopardised here job. Addressing respected people with derogatory names like Peon etc. was well within the topic. I am afraid not, you surpassed all level of ethics and responsible writing and now when someone stands up and shows you the mirror you promptly rebutted the same. I do agree with the other girl who challenged you to not hide behind the acquired name as it does show how un sure you are about yourself and how hell scared you are to reveal your true identify.

Who gives you the prerogative to make absurd personal comments and get away with it. No you better face this and I promise you till the time you don’t apologise to all concerned individuals you have been derogatory to or you disown this blog this diatribe will continue.

I guess this is enough of constructive reply to your post. Your early response with due apology to all would be deeply appreciated.
@ Dheerajverman - First of all Shut Up, keep your ideas to yourself, dont judge mine as whatever i said above regarding the institute, the punjabi girl, the peon are all true to my knowledge and true to my Experience . Speaking about ethics, If the people you mentioned above would have had their ethics intact then, me and my batch would have never faced the problems that we faced, which eventually lead to the waste of our time as well as the money . They truly deserve a slap over their face for the treatment dished out to my batch and i am sure, we were not the only one to go through that .
Now about my identity, It does not matter who i am, what matters is what i have got to say, and please, Shut up once again, as you dont come with an Identity proof either .
And what a sore Looser are you, is it that difficult for your pea brain to understand that, maybe things worked out just fine for you in NG but it cannot be the same in every case, Does it suffocate your, and make your ego hurt that someone differ from your point of view, is it that difficult for you to acknowledge this simple fact. Read the reviews, above, dont you see there are others too who have been mistreated, and why ? only because all we wanted was a good Faculty, and few hours of lab . ( Remember : We PAID for it )
I pity People like you Craving for attention, what was it, did you not get enough Love and attention back at your home by your parents, did they not consider your worth their time and even your friends ( if you have some ) i guess, would rather stay alone then, in a company of a hard headed, egoistic Jerk like you who dont even give breathing space to people, if they dont go by his train of thoughts . Nobody knows you, not even me and not anyone above But u know who you are and yes, YOU, you are a Jerk .Do yourself a favor and Get out of this place . I wrote my review so that Students would not be duped of their money and time, though things like money and time would not be precious to you but they matter for the other sane public .
so Mr.Notsosmartass, every story has two sides, i told mine, and am open to even positive comments about NG ( as i mentioned earlier ), comments like yours Dilute the very idea of my whole post . And btw. You are not a Student, and it is also not about the peon and the girl . Our post, our reviews hurt your Big Ego, why was that .

I am sure the language used above this time would have been easy to understand and familiar to you :) :)

About students, well they must have been XXXXXXXtra Talented, i agree, atleast 5 of them for sure ( don't know about rest of them), from whatever i heard from my friend of ccna security from the hostel, Who else would have the guts to Drink, and party whole night before going to sleep for most part of the day just Days before Flying to HK for their Pleasure trip . Yes, that Oooozes Extra Talent or as you may have understood extra confidence and Total grasp of the concepts . ( No Pun Intended, pea brain )

And, okey, about my identity Go and ask Pradeep Sir, just ask him who were the guy's to whom he said " I am sorry for the CCNA batch, ccna does'nt matter much, but i will Personally make sure that for CCNP and CCIE you all will get the best of classes and labs " . If you have that much interest to know who i am then, ask him, you will get the answer ( ie, if he said this to only our batch, and not to every other ccna batches of NG ) . People, won't believe, what we felt when we heard this being said by Pradeep sir, and unfortunately the situation did not even improve in CCNP, so We Left. And, WE here stands for a FULL Batch ( I cant make it more easy for you )

If i am right, then i dont think there would be any Apologies from your side regarding your, aimless and tasteless thoughts rather, some more unpleasant, true to your nature tasteless, arrogant, imaginative and unhelpful comments are on the way . Bring them on, let people know what NG is all about . Btw. Do you have a ccie number for yourself, just yes/ no would do .
@ shanedudee I think you know about the students and staff of NG very well and their daily chores too.
In first place you don't have need to write this blog, If you have put the efforts to understand the ccna or ccnp course rather than discussing about
others what were they ( XXXXXXXtra Talented ) doing in their personal life with your hostel friend or others. As you have mentioned in your last post, maybe things didn't work out just fine for you in NG but it cannot be the same in every case.Regarding the language you used in last post shows your character certificate.



I’d insult you right now… But I was raised NOT to make fun of the mentally challenged… You’re lucky! :) :)
@Qweaasd -- Oh, So you only saw my use of language, pity that, And, Cant you Read or are you just Ignoring the fact that ( there is a problem with faculty and lab time and also Management ) How are you expecting anyone to understand the course . I can See all the people who had something to share about their experience of NG has already done it, let it be Me or yatharth, or xngstudent or mrccie, they have put forward their thoughts giving a Valid reason of why they think the way they think . So the Motive of these Posts have been fulfilled.
Rest, now after Dheeraj and Qweassd, i believe people of NG, have stepped in now to do some damage control and i am expecting some slew of imaginative remarks which would be far from the topic .
Anyway, until these posts are there, People would Check out most of the comments and find out for themselves if they would like to opt in for NG
or not . So, I still maintain my stand that, NETWORKERS GURU, may be a Good institute as they Claim BUT as of my Experience, i Believe it is not worth the Money and there are far too many reasons for that .
@shanedudee wrote "So the Motive of these Posts have been fulfilled"

missed one line perhaps two. Only people who scheme have motives and you have proved that, you only mean to bring disrepute to people there surely not due to the course and thats your motive. Maybe you would have put your brains in studying than scheming.
@shandudee i feel @qweaasd and @dheerajverman are correct you should not get personal, keep to the topic or leave the blog. i also regret for getting carried away with your comments and would apologise to all concerned. i think you also should do the same. dont do all this for just a motive.
Hi Shanedudee
I have come to a conclusion that you are one frustrated SOB who is running from one institute to the other like a headless chicken and all you have learned so far is connecting wrong cables.

Since you decided to sit in your wet pants and not name yourself I took upon myself to do some fact findings and i have gathered some very interesting facts from your friends and from other reliable sources as to who you are and in what circumstances you disappeared from NG. Its your frustration of not being able to understand the technology which is evident on the blog and you are maligning the name of the institute and the respected people there whereas you should be blaming yourself for running away on pretex of teaching standards.

Initially i was in doubt whether you have any straits of being a man, which was evident from your derogatory comments about an innocent hard working girl, no self respecting man would make a comment like this one in public ( it only highlights your shallow character), then as you wrote further i began to think you are a girl who is jealous of the other lady staff at NG and in order to spite them you dragged the institute into the controversy, but then after fact finding believe me i am certain of your gender the ones who have no control on their language and the written contents, you have the audacity to drag my family and private life of other innocent people on to a public domain it is completely un pardonable.It only shows your narrow minded approach to life and shallow up-bringing where you just cannot bear someone disagreeing with your negative and biased views.

I am not surprised why it has taken you over an year to complete CCNA, it is mandatory to distinguish between straight and cross cable before you can be allowed to come anywhere near the equipment and bird brain like yous is still confused with different cables. Hey Dudee I am told you are colour blind and your batch mates use to make fun of you is that TRUE, what colours bother you in RJ45 blue, orange, green or brown, no wonder you cant make the difference and clear your CCNA.

Why would i need attention from a spineless person like you, its pity people like you who always play the blame game for their own failures, dont be worried there are plenty like you perhaps you move in the same crowd who emboss your ugly views and give you the desired breathing space ( please tell me if you are on a flip side)

I dont need identity proof when i am carrying my name on the blog, with the choice of nick name you have i dont think they would even entertain you on paid chat line, so DUDEE have some SHAM(n)e and apologise to all concerned and will treat this matter as closed.

You wanted to know what hurt me, it was surely not my ego as i dont own the place and i have had some wonderful experiences at NG with no complaints whatsoever but what incited me was that you have no business to make derogatory comments about innocent and respectable people on a public domain even if they are your views and may be facts. Your views cannot be proclaimed law and all must adhere to them, you made those vicious personal remarks that hurt many and their well wishers and i happen to one of them.

You must have a short memory as you forgot your own suggestion in one the post "to stick to the topic etc etc" and here you drag peoples generations and personal live into the discussion. You have go to be right that i must be jerk as i dont understand the relationship between my how worth while my parents find me has go to do with your damn completing CCNA, please throw some light Shamedude

As for my CCIE nos, i still aspire for the same and what would a sloth like you know about hardwork and sincerity, but i am sure i will get one before you get your CCNA.

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