[Resolved]  www.bid20.com — Is this website legal?

Dear Sir,

I cam across a company which is selling products through online Auction. It is selling products at 80% discount to their retail price.

By doing some simple math i came to know that the company is making profits around 16times on each of the product it is selling. Doesn't this online auction falls under gambling? Is it legal? Please look into this.
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Aug 14, 2020
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yes I agree with this comment. As per Bid 20 the bidding time increases by 15 secs each time a fresh bid is placed during the ending 15 seconds of the bid. In this case I have tried some time wherein the action starts during this period. Further, most of the winners are regular names / IDs. This reflects that some things which are not proper are going behind this web site.
IT SEEMS THAT THERE IS SOMEWHAT MANIPULATION BY THE SITE OWNERS, BECAUSE EVERY ONE KNOWS THAT AFTER 10 SEONDS 9, , 7, 6, 5, AND 1 WILL COME. BUT EVEN THEN BIDS ARE COMING FREQUENTLY.THEY ARE NOT WAITING FOR THE LAST 1 OR 2 SECONDS. IT MEANS THERE IS SOMETHING FISHY .CAN ANY ONE CLEAR IT.
Not only these, there is some users of his own company who do not give other users to be sold at least bid, if any item is sold at low bids...it automatically changes username...in 1 sec..and gives that to its own id's of the people who are working as froud bidders...
it employed those people for increasing the bid...
They may look like they are doing everything within a legal framework, but this is a fraud site. Why so is because most of the bidders are BOTS (system created members) which automatically bid on behalf of the site to jack up the price.

Stay as far away as possible.

Ebay is genuine, you may not get very low prices on products as this site claims, but atleast you get a fair deal.
Dear, When I found the froud in the process of Bidding I sent them mail on [protected]@bid20.com to send my money back but i received the mail from their customer care as mentioned below.

Dear Sanjay

Bids are not refundable and it is clearly written in our terms. Users are bidding and winning products. You can still try your luck as bids are not refundable whether you use them or not.

Thank You
Bid20.com
Telephone no. of BID20 Delhi Office - +[protected]
Dear All,

This site appears to be 100% fraud as the same names are bidding... and it is sure that their operators are increasing the bids and the genuine bids are never honoured...

You should also verify the winners testimonials as they seems fake.

Such sites should be banned and promoters prosecuted.
Bid20.com knows how to mint money. Pls do not compare this with ebay which is a proper bidding site. With ebay you will not loose money if you dont win.

I observed bid20 for some time and i believe that they are using ghost id's. Pls dont get yourself cheated. Understand one thing guys, nobody gives a product without seeing a profit.

I doubt if the users giving positive comment about this site are from BID20 itself.
If the company is fraudster then the owner should be flogged in public.
I observed the bids today wherein biders were bidding for VPCW125AG/P - (Sony) Lapop. The price of the laptop is 27490/-. When the time to bid came to end there was a fierce battle for the product.The bidders were bidding aggressively . There may be 25 bids per minutes by a particular bidder. It may have cost him/her 25*30 = 750 per minute.The bidder was very aggressive for nearly 30 minutes. By then he/she might have spent 750*30 = 22500 for bidding.The bid started at aroung 12 and now it is 3:36 PM . The same person is bidding again. It shows that either the person is mad or the whole system should be invesrigated.
The company should relese the data of bids made by each user, amount & time spent by him/her .
want to buy blackberry
Guys, pls note that the website mentions that the one who is bidding, can also buy the product (even though at the MRP, which might be higher than that in the market) outright after deducting the bids (@ Rs. 20). So in short a bidder can still get the product before the auction ends, at the MRP.
Hi ALL,

Bid20 is a legal website and is launched by Abcindya Networks Private Limited located in Delhi (India). The employees of Abcindya Networks Pvt. Ltd and Bid20.com are not eligible to participate in any of our auctions under any circumstances. Our products and services are offered to private users and to commercial or partly commercial resellers. Also we have clearly mentioned in the T&C page that at Bid20 placing Bids online frequently or repeatedly can incur high costs. Users must pay attention to their bidding practices and check their charges regularly. Any bidding advice or other written materials, for instance Help articles posted on our website are provided solely as suggestions. They are not intended to be relied upon. Please make sure before making any bids on bid20.com or any other site we would advise you to first view the terms & conditions of the website. If you have any further query, please contact us at [protected]@bid20.com.Thanks, www.bid20.com
Genius in making Frauds
I got information about this site thru their ad in paper few days back. Ad says something like "Laptop of Rs. 27000 won in bidding at Rs. 2000". I got curious and got registered with it. While i was monitoring the bids, I was also reading their terms and conditions and other related information. After reading it i got suspicious and calculated how the bidding actually works.
First you have to buy "Bids" by making payment, from their site to get eligible for auction. These bids cost you around Rs. 16 to 30 per bid. so when you actually bid (by clicking the given button) your one bid (amounting to Rs. 16 to 30 ) is deducted from your balance. similarly other players in auction also do the same way. The Hidden point here is whenever anybody bids; the product value is increased by Re. 1 only however the bidder looses Rs.16 to 30 on the bid. Thus the product (of INR 27000) shown to be sold at around Rs. 2000 which actually is sold at (2000 bids x Rs. 20 an avg price paid by bidder to purchase bid) Rs. 40, 000/- As total bids lost by all bidders contribute revenue of the site and it is clearly written that in any condition your money will not be returned. sometimes a product of INR 5000 is won by 1000 bids i.e. around INR 16000 to 20000. only thing here is this 20000 is not lost by an individual but by number of bidders bidding for that product. Also nobody knows whether the site has deployed any staff for false bidding.
Therefore Here only the winner of the bid is benefited as in 2000 bids the bidders might have lost only 50* to 100* bids (*my assumption) i.e. INR 8000* to 16000*.
Whoever has come up with this idea is a real genius (Hats off to him) as our Indian mentality towards "FREE" and "80% to 90% DISCOUNT" will never go.
BUT this site, by showing, every bid placed increases value of product by Re. 1, is doing fraud. So CAVEAT EMPTOR.
i see today neew papper nokia-E-63 95% off, so rs-356 so
please find out this shopping

Thanks
manoj kumar
[protected]
They are not going to send anything even after winning.

Once while bidding timer reached 00 while me as last bidder but all of sudden some other name appeared as the winner. How come this possible. If somebody bid after me then timer will start from 15. but they are fraud. They are not going to give anything to anyone.

Its not gambling. Its a loot.

Wastage of money . Wastage of time. and MENTAL STRESS.
Hi ALL,

Bid20 is an illegal website and is launched by IP Bhatia Private Limited located in virtual world. The employees of Abcindya Networks Pvt. Ltd and Bid20.com do participate to outbid genuine bidders in all of our auctions under every circumstances. Our products and services are offered to hidden users. Also we have clearly mentioned in the T&C page that at Bid20 placing Bids online frequently or repeatedly can incur high costs which u can never recover. Users must pay attention to their bidding practices and check their charges regularly if they want to. Any bidding advice or other written materials, for instance Help articles posted on our website are provided solely as misguidance . They are not intended to be relied upon but i[censored] do so company will benifit. Please make sure before making any bids on bid20.com or any other site we would advise you to first view the terms & conditions of the website. If you have any further query, please contact us by buying bids .Thanks, www.bid20.com

p.s. please buy bid because we have a lot at stake. We lost too much money in newspaper advertising.
Yeah Its really misguiding and cheating.
Timer never endson time as the last 15 seconds goes for more than 120 minutes but never ends and Bidders are fooled like nothing as the Bids are to be purchased in advance by making payment.
Goverment's Vigilance department is really making a Blind Eye towards the Gimmick which is played Bid20.
Only if the thing comes to Media than only Goverment is forced to take action.
This website is fraud .

See some of its terms

1. "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason and to close his or her user accounts at any time."

that means they will decide when to say good bye to you. They can refuse to give you anything after taking all the payments...So even if you win, do not pay for the product otherwise you make yourself fool again.

2. "Bid20.com Reserves the Right to demand payment if customer has more than 5 unpaid items in their account or if the total amount of auctions won exceed Rs.50, 000/-. To avoid this situation please Pay on Time."

So after winning if you will not pay for the product then they can demand for the payment for the item which they are not going to send. If you do not do so, you are in trouble. LOL They have the right to ask for the payment without sending the product.



3. "Shill bidding is prohibited on the site. Shill bidding is the placing of bids or causing bids to be placed on any product for the purpose of artificially increasing or otherwise manipulating the bidding process on Bid20.com or the bid price of any product listed on the site, or influencing user behaviour on Bid20.com. A limit of daily spending limit can and will be enforced if we consider that someone has a tendency towards shill bidding or winning by intimidating other members, and we reserve the right to suspend the member without any prior notice. Other restrictions may apply."

Hmmm, Quite generous!! They are there not to make profit. They want to give everyone a chance to play, not to win the product.If you try to win, you will be shill bidder and product will not be offered... How was that??? Any way they have every right of not giving out the product lol.



4. "Bidders are restricted to win a maximum of 2 products in a week time. In case you win more than 2 products in a week, you will not be eligible to claim on third product. "

Hope the 2 product will be shipped to you.

Still hoping...???

So there is only lose lose situation at bid20.com

Such a big fraud, making fool of every body and govt is at sleep...

Hope I am able to clear some doubt of millions...

How was that... ???

Ritesh

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