[Resolved]  Indian Railway — Introduction of Side middle berth is unacceptable

This is in response to your new decision to introduce a side middle birth in 2839 Howrah –Chennai mail. I was travelling in the said train on 8/11/08. When I boarded the train from Howrah I was struck by the awful commotion in the bogie which was quite unusual for a 3A.C bogie . On further enquiry I found out that a new berth has been introduced as side middle birth . I felt very bad to see this new development. Because it greatly hurt my level of comfort. I always felt the 3tier A.C is overloaded every time and that 2tier A.C is the most comfortable . I always avoided to travel in 3 tier A.C unless I have side lower or side upper . Because I always feel that all berths except the side ones are over crowded in a 3tier A.C bogie and that on every side there should be not more than two passengers like 2 tier A.C. I always expected that Railway will do something to remove this uncomfortable way of adjusting three passenger’s on each side . But to utter dismay when I discovered that a third berth(middle berth) is introduced on the side(futher adding to already existing discomfort) I was very disappointed because this idea is largely compromises passengers comfort. For me this idea has proved to be disastrous. I would rather feel more comfortable to travel in non-A.C sleeper class than to travel in 3tier A.C with side middle birth. For me travelling in 3tier A.C is now more a sort of punishment than enjoyment.Travelling now in 3A.C is simply unacceptable.

I would request railway to stop such disastrous idea of introducing 3A.C with side middle birth as it is only killing the comfort and travel charm of fellow passengers.
Expecting early action.

Faithfully yours,
Alok mishra.
PNR. No.[protected] dt.8/11/08
Cell no.(0)[protected]
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Side Berth of IInd AC in Rajdhani — Facililities of Side Berth Passenger

I was travelling by August Kranti Express on 10th Oct. '08 by booking a Tatkal Ticket(PNR-[protected]) . The side berth of the A4 Coach was very uncomfortable as gap of both the parts of lower berth was very big. There was no power plug facility like the other side.

Even though people pay equal fare, still the facility of side berth passenger is equal to that of III Ac except the curtain.

It is requested to look after the facilities of the side berth passenger as Railway is charging money.

Ashok

railways complaint — introduction of side middle birth

the introduction of side middle birth by lalu is completely is untolerable. it is harassment of passanger on account of their disability to provide good facility to passanger of india. being a railway minister he should think of passengers comfort at a top priority as they pay the amount as mentioned. also this side middle birth should be for garibrath not for all trains and even in 3rd ac. its a matter of peoples health too. i m a asthematic patient, i couldnt even breath in such situation also its then completely suffocation and blocking situatin in trains by introducing this extra side middle birth. i stongly oppose to this new introduction of side middle birth and want to be removed from all trains. Please someone help in this context as a matter of everyone's confortabiltiy.
I totally agree with Mr. Alok. Iam sure Indian railways finds it more profitable now with additional berths. You dont book profits at the cost of comfort of the common man. Introduce a change than betters the conditions not something that worsens the conditions.
Dear railway minister Ji,

I request to remove the side middle birth in the tran . it is painful.
My horrible experience with SMB, Indian railways sucks

I boarded the train from one stop after the starting point, I found my place is already occupied by people, the person in side lower and side upper have already packed up there luggage, no space left to keep my luggage, so I had to sit keeping luggage on my lap. 4 people sitting in the place of 2 people in side berth, one can easily get hydrocele .

The guy getting SMB cannot sit properly, cannot keep his luggage, cannot sleep in that small berth so the fare should never be more than 50%, I guess railways shouls alo provide free hydrocele insurance to all SMB

If you are a girl and got SMB, who knows 2 perverts from both side can keep on touching your back and front on the context of
no space.

Shame on indian railways, Shame on railway ministry for trying to make traveling by train as horrible as it is while traveling by train in bihar.

Let us come together and file RTI on railway ministry asking them since neither the person can sleep nor can he sit, nor can he keep his luggage, the SMB ticket should cost 75% less than normal berth or else remove it . If RTI does not work we can file a PIL, let some judge of court travel by SMB for 2 days and provide his judgement.
It is high time that Indian Railway took appropriate immediate steps to meet the greatest challenge that no public enterprise of such magnitude in the world, has since been faced, in terms of providing comfortable mobility to hundreds of millions of passengers, daily. India with ever fast growing population, is an amalgam of different stages of social strata, is indeed a challenge to the public transport system. The decision makers at the helm of affairs should immediately look into the aspect of providing "room" to all the passengers. The present way of treating the passengers as lambs & goats, pushing them en mass into one compartment, should be discarded forthwith. The latest version of railway authorities in the name of providing more "room" to extra passengers, by introducing third side berth, is really discomfort to all passengers in that compartment. Indians are honorable, we ourselves can't, shouldn't be indifferent to the discomfort of our fellow citizens, hence the authorities should add some more bogie's / think of restructuring existing compartments as double decker. The ultimate aim should be --providing comfortable travel to all. In this connection the present concerned authorities should be sensitized /given training how to respond to passengers' discomfort, quickly.
i agree with you
I fully agree that introduction of side middle birth is totally inconveinent. Railway Minister should lookinto this seriously and remove side middle birth so that the passengers can travel comfortably.

Apart from the side middle birth issue, they started allotting RAC Seats in the normal birth. i.e. One Normal Lower Birth & Middle Birth(1 &2) is allotted for 3 sitting and all three of them has to sit continuously where in the person in the oposite lower birth will be sleeping and three people will be watching. Imagine if the opposite lower birth passenger is female???????????

Lalu Ji, pl. put a stop to this non-sense and remove middle birth.
this type of birth is not good for people.it is very bad for indian people.so better ths type facility should not provide.
I had experienced this when I boarded the coromandel express from howrah to chennai on the way to Mangalore. For me its basically a hectic journey since I start from howrah in the afternoon and end up reaching my place by 3rd day. Travelling all the way in a SMB coach is horrible and knowing that common man has no value/voice in our country. My only option is not to travel everyyear to meet my old parents. Accumulate money and travel only once in three years so that I can afford to pay 2nd class AC. I don't know how senior citizens and ladies with small children travel in this worst ever made train journey by Indian Railways.
I fullya gree with the complaints here. I used to think that the Railways should remove the normal middle berth but to my horror I see that they have not only not removed the middle berth but have added a Side Middle Berth. This clearly shows how Railways treats it customers and then they sya that they are mking profir. I am sure somone who is paying 700 Rupees for a AC 3 tier berth will nto mind paying 750 instead or 800 but travel in comfort. If only the Cheap airlines could provide a bette ralternative. Shame on railways and Shame on Lalu...I have travlled in some many trains including in China but no where there is 3 tier forget 3 tier side berth an don top of it in China they do not have Side berths also they have only sitting in side and som etrians nothing in the side. Clear difference in how people are treated and mind you I am nto comparing Europe or US am comparing a developing populus country with another
It is horrible to find the public sector unit like Railways making profit at the cost of Passenger comfort.The side middle berth should be removed immediately.
It is the crudest way to make profit.it is better to increase the fair to compensate the loss on removing the side middle seat.it should be done immidiately.
Hello Railway Officer,
I don't know who got the idea to introduce the side middle birth, really they don't have idea about the railway comfortable journey, and they need some Recognized from their superious. Why the people choose the railway journey because of comfortable, you simply destroy our comfortable journey in railway. We are entered in 21st century. All world moving forward, we people are going back because of illness offices. My request is don't go back please improve the thinking level and remove the side middle birth.
Dear Concerned authorities
Have you ever checked the possibilities of going up and coming down from side top births? Can any authority/ the so called idea generator display getting into the birth?

As per my knowledge the third birth system is removed.
But i saw many trains are filled by these third births(side). Only TTE knows Identity of these extra included passengers?
Railways feel Justice that" the Tatkal waitlisted people who pays extramoney and gets nothing, but get open ticket, pay money to TTE enjoy the birth"

Please take neccessary action
To whom you guys are asking to take action? this is INDIA, the way the TTE do (pay money to get a open berth) the same way these guys also does. I recommond and start taking action your self. You You You You You You You You You You You & Me, all together. i know one person action is not affective, but all together it is. Post you ideas what action together can take instead asking (complaining) someone to take action which things never work.

Regards,
an Indian.
i, Ajay Kumar Agarwala, would like to know the railway reservation rules for ac 3.
As i had been suffered from your reservation procedures on 07.05.09.
i was travelling from kaliyaganj to kolkata vide PNR [protected] in that time there was no allotment of side middle birth from your end but unfortunately on returning at 09.05.09 vide no [protected] we were suffered by the allotment of side middle birth.
so can you please inform me about the rules and regulation of reservation procedure. how come people would know about the specific seat, that had been allotted to me which was either lower or upper or middle birth.
please do something to clearify the doubts .
yes, , its very very uncomfortable journey..if media is attentive towards it then we can be saved, , , so we need to make media alert, , , but how?
How many complaints railways needs to revert the additional side birth.
Whenever passenger travels if he/she find the change 1st time since their last travel it is surprise to them. This indicates railways have not taken care to educate the passengers although some note appears at side birth, it is not sufficient. Since the inception of additional 3rd birth no change in reservation system is done to accommodate the change. It adds to further confusion to passengers and creates chaos among other passengers who is not having side births.

It seems railways just interested in profit and not the real comfort of passangers. Why can not add one more birth instead of having additional birth.
Now lalu is gone so the indian railways should remove the side middle birth atleast from AC 3 Tier.

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