[Resolved]  Karma Royal Group — Scammers and liars

Everybody beware, If you are on holiday in Bali or Indonesia and you receive a telemarketer call patched through to your hotel room be afraid as this is nothing but a down right scam, they promise you free holidays, Ipods, boating trips and other related . If you agree to go along with the spill and agree to meet their driver you are kidnapped for 4.5 to 5.0 hours listening to a well trained actor piss in your ear about how good their hotels are and how lucky you are to have been selected. We spent 5 hours being dribbled to about their hotels and their resorts the people that stay with them and all the other they could come out with, whilst we were being dragged from one end of Bali to the other we asked more than ten times how much this all cost to be involved in but were blatantly lied to with the excuse that he didn't know until he had spoken to his manager and done a super special price just for us, after 5 hours being shuffled around in a less than perfect car driven by a less than perfect human being we were shuffled in to a room with about 50 or 60 other people where we met a very load and obnoxious man who just was so over acted it was sad, when we asked for the total price for us to get involved we were quoted $37,987 with the just advance it in cash on your credit card. I looked at the bloke and said you are kidding with the answer this is 20% off because I like you mate. I said NO, we want to go back to our hotel immediately, we were pushed out in to a small room with a Asian woman who handed me a reward for my free holiday which turned out to be more worth less than toilet paper as the hotels did not let people stay for free as it was against company policy.

SO BE AWARE, JOHN SPENCE AND HIS TEAM FROM THE KARMA ROYAL GROUP ARE SCAMMERS, LIARS AND VERY GOOD ARTISTS !!!!!!!!!!
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Aug 13, 2020
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They didn't lie only with the clients but also they lie and badly cheated with their employer they didn't pay salary...they hire young girls & boys push them to work for them and after a month they kick out without paying their wages so my dear friends be aware of this BEAST KARMA GROUP THEY CAN DO ANYTHING FOR THE MONEY I BELIEVE THE OWNER OF THIS GROUP MAY BE THE REAL BEAST...
i was referring a friend to the club and he stated that he had seen bad remarks about it. I was dismayed because i have been a member for almost a decade and have had quite a few memorable stays with this group. Some of the comments are quite over the top and had i to read these i wouldn't perhaps no go in for the m'ship...thank god i didn't...because i enjoy my annual holiday with my family and at times even multiple bonus weeks for friends and family. Please people i have made many a friends with royal members over the years n most seem very happy. keep up the good work guys...members like me will always back you up... And i will try to post this comment as many times as possible on different websites.cheers!!!
Guest Experience - TS ORM's reply, Aug 17, 2022
Dear Sir

Thank you for your support of the club. We really appreciate it.
Kindly forward your membership details to us at [email protected] to enable us to get in touch with you and learn more about your experiences with us.

Best regards 
Karma Relations Team
Karma Group..
Its true.they now operating at Gandaria city, One of Biggest Mall in Jakarta. Their office at Gandaria office building level 19.
the PVB Group Bali are selling time share rip off in 2013 dont byu their gift vouchers Percy Burlace the owner is retiring to new Zeanand and he is shutting PVB Down . they are scammers their Manager Frank Scott was one of the biggest scammers in Thailand and he fled to Bali now he is head scammer at www.balipvbgroup and www.baligetaways.com.au dont get scammed
the latest scamming group is Bali Getaways .com.au owned by Percy Burlace a new Zealander scammer and his company is www.balipvbgroup.com dont do business with them
Guest Experience - TS ORM's reply, Aug 17, 2022
Dear Sir

I guess you have posted in the wrong string

Best regards 
Karma Relations Team
Karma Group..
We were scammed big time by Karma Royal Group in Bali last month. It really is a fraud. If someone knows a way out of the contract, please contact me. We have already contacted the embassy about this, are the lawyers our next choice?
Same is happening in goa as well, one of the executive named Sameer came to us, contracted for a while and gave us a gift voucher, as soon as we opened that voucher, he congratulated us and shaken hands saying that we are the second lucky customer since morning who won these prizes. There was a scratch coupon as well inside, which he mentioned to open at Karma royal site once we go there and attend a small seminar. He also added that you'll get free pickup / drop service from hotel, promised to offer food and other servings at the location. We heard each and everything from him properly and decided to go by our own vehicle.

Somehow, I thought of fraud in this and researched online about it. Thanks to all these guys who already posted complaints here, I declined the plan now and posting it here about this fraud, so that it can help someone else if get to this in goa.
Guest Experience - TS ORM's reply, Aug 17, 2022
Dear Sir

Greetings of the day!

Your comment is based on hearsay
No personal experience with the presentation & our sales team, yet you call it a fraud?  I am quite certain that in today's day and age, any business that indulges in less than legitimate ways of business, will immediately meet its fate.
On the contrary, we are an organisation that has been in existence for over 28 years with close to 30 resorts spread across 10 countries. Not to mention a member base of almost 50, 000 globally, a good number of which are Indian members who've been enjoying many years of happy holidays with us.

It's true that in Tourism & Hospitality Industry getting 100% customer satisfaction is like a 100 % score in the literature But we welcome all positive and negative feedback as they help us improve and do better.
It would have been really nice if you had attended the presentation and collected the scratch and win a prize.

Best regards 
Karma Relations Team
Karma Group..

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