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You are absolutely right @dheerajverman, this dude or i must say this shameless dude have nothing to do apart from this as he didnt get a job or might be he was not able to crack the CCNA exam even. So there's a saying like ghosts live in empty brains and the same is he showing to the public herein to this blog. I would like to inform that i have a personal experience with Mr Pradeep and other faculty members. They all are good and very very cooperative. Apart as he said electricity problems
and all so it happens everywhere for a small span of time, nothing there to challenge anybody for this matter.
If I go personally, them i can also smack @shanedude with a lot of jerk content but I would not because my ethics are not similar as you DUDE. So shanedude you get out of the mush and wash it off and try thinking of your career rather wasting your time in writing all this talk. I wish you best of luck and wish you could find a good trainer who can train you well in all manner(you need the human behaviour training as well).
On the other hand, if you have any issues, ask the authority (the director - Mr Pradeep) you can ask them to sort those out at the same time. I personally discussed issues what I had, i discussed Mr Pradeep and he swiftly sorted them out and he is capable enough to do so. If I would have started such threads, I would be in the same retarded condition. Now I have completed my CCNP and the coming month am going to join there for CCIE Security training and according to me its the best training
center for Cisco certification as it gave me all the flexibility to practice more and more and the faculty is always there for the issues to be resolved. There were times when, Mr Pradeep himself sit and discussed our subjected issues and sorted them out.
and all so it happens everywhere for a small span of time, nothing there to challenge anybody for this matter.
If I go personally, them i can also smack @shanedude with a lot of jerk content but I would not because my ethics are not similar as you DUDE. So shanedude you get out of the mush and wash it off and try thinking of your career rather wasting your time in writing all this talk. I wish you best of luck and wish you could find a good trainer who can train you well in all manner(you need the human behaviour training as well).
On the other hand, if you have any issues, ask the authority (the director - Mr Pradeep) you can ask them to sort those out at the same time. I personally discussed issues what I had, i discussed Mr Pradeep and he swiftly sorted them out and he is capable enough to do so. If I would have started such threads, I would be in the same retarded condition. Now I have completed my CCNP and the coming month am going to join there for CCIE Security training and according to me its the best training
center for Cisco certification as it gave me all the flexibility to practice more and more and the faculty is always there for the issues to be resolved. There were times when, Mr Pradeep himself sit and discussed our subjected issues and sorted them out.
Now you spoke like a true NG faculty, all those abuse, imaginary contents and a cheap efforts to defend NG over its demerits, which somehow tends to hide away at first under the, flashy webpages, awards and sweet talks . Thanks, somehow your thoughts puts light on the treatment that is dished out when, students ask for proper labs and faculties in NG.
Thanks mate, your post goes ways ahead in helping students to decide for themselves.
Thanks mate, your post goes ways ahead in helping students to decide for themselves.
Now you spoke like a true NG faculty, all those abuse, imaginary contents and a cheap efforts to defend NG over its demerits, which somehow tends to hide away at first under the, flashy webpages, awards and sweet talks . Thanks, somehow your thoughts puts light on the treatment that is dished out when, students ask for proper labs and faculties in NG.
Thanks mate, your post goes ways ahead in helping students to decide for themselves.
Thanks mate, your post goes ways ahead in helping students to decide for themselves.
@ dheerajverman -- Desperate are you not, But then you just showed what NG is all about . Lies, money hoarding and low level of teaching . Pathetic.
You did a Research about me huh ? Unbelievable, do you guys actually believe yourselves.
Guys, you just got lucky that most of the students didnt take the way of complain boards else, it would have been a serious one way traffic of complaints against NG.
You did a Research about me huh ? Unbelievable, do you guys actually believe yourselves.
Guys, you just got lucky that most of the students didnt take the way of complain boards else, it would have been a serious one way traffic of complaints against NG.
NG shatterd my ccie dreams. I wasted approx 70k and i was nevr taught by their god almighty PRADEEP SIR against what i was commited while taking admission. Ccna was taught by a beared guy where as ccnp and ccie was taught by their ccie ex student (who faild in his lab exam). For his personnel certifications (first security and then voice) almighty pradeep sir put the career of many students on stake who joins ccie just due to him but feels betrayed when some faild lab ex student teaches them instead of him as NG's ccie god is busy in his voice lab preparation. Undr frustration i left d institute in august 2012. In my knowledge no one cleared ccie from this institute since 1.5 years. Regarding ccie, i still not lost my hope, i will go 4 rack rentals and give my first lab on march 2013.
I don't know how the hell NG is surviving with No CCIE pass outs, rubbish Infrastructure, Poor faculties and their Money Money Money attitude.
@shanedude: man it seams you yourself are incapable of pursuing a career in cisco and networking. Dude rather than wasting your time and our time in this bogus chain of comments you should help yourself by finding yourself a career you are actually good in. And man you are an a$$ for pointing wrong accusations at a delightful girl who is only doing her job. You should be shameful for your hurtful comments.
@SureshKumar4532: you are a very strange person if you don’t know the salary drawn by a ccie then you shouldn’t be on this blog. You should first of all get into networking get yourself a petty job and then ask others about the glory of CCIE
@xngstudent: I hold you at very high standards as you apologised for your mistakes which I feel takes a lot of guts. I don’t know what happened during your training but may be you had a bad day.
@mrccie123: perhaps the only person who is drawing attention towards the actual problem that is infrastructure and power backup. I must admit that is a real issue but nothing NG is not working towards. But man you are being an a$$ too...
@dheerajverman: wow you have a terrific english but why are you attacking a single person on the forum. You clam that you took training from NG but why don’t you shed light on the real problems at NG. From your comments it seems someone has paid you to write these comments…
@Ccie Hunter: were you drunk when you wrote your comments?? NG has a superb faculty for CCIE. All the trainers who take CCIE batches are already CCIE. And also regarding cleared students just check the website a lot of students have cleared CCIE in past. Next time if you wish to comment atleast try to add true information. BTW I confirmed the trainer from other students.
@hemantccieaspirant: check my comments for Ccie Hunter…
I would like to add that when I checked all these comments I went to other institutes first for CCIE R&S boot camp. Trust me guys when I say that other trainers in locality just talk . They can’t even teach you basic concepts from CCNA let alone from CCIE. The trainer assigned to me, Rahul, is already CCIE R&S and has a good knowledge. I haven’t been able to talk much to Mr Pradeep who is a triple CCIE but he is also very good. There is another trainer, Mr vasant, for CCIE voice too but haven’t been able to interact with him.
My final words for you guys would be that this blog seems to be a way NG’s rivals are attacking this fine institute. If anyone wants to reach me then my email id is [protected]@rediffmail.com
@SureshKumar4532: you are a very strange person if you don’t know the salary drawn by a ccie then you shouldn’t be on this blog. You should first of all get into networking get yourself a petty job and then ask others about the glory of CCIE
@xngstudent: I hold you at very high standards as you apologised for your mistakes which I feel takes a lot of guts. I don’t know what happened during your training but may be you had a bad day.
@mrccie123: perhaps the only person who is drawing attention towards the actual problem that is infrastructure and power backup. I must admit that is a real issue but nothing NG is not working towards. But man you are being an a$$ too...
@dheerajverman: wow you have a terrific english but why are you attacking a single person on the forum. You clam that you took training from NG but why don’t you shed light on the real problems at NG. From your comments it seems someone has paid you to write these comments…
@Ccie Hunter: were you drunk when you wrote your comments?? NG has a superb faculty for CCIE. All the trainers who take CCIE batches are already CCIE. And also regarding cleared students just check the website a lot of students have cleared CCIE in past. Next time if you wish to comment atleast try to add true information. BTW I confirmed the trainer from other students.
@hemantccieaspirant: check my comments for Ccie Hunter…
I would like to add that when I checked all these comments I went to other institutes first for CCIE R&S boot camp. Trust me guys when I say that other trainers in locality just talk . They can’t even teach you basic concepts from CCNA let alone from CCIE. The trainer assigned to me, Rahul, is already CCIE R&S and has a good knowledge. I haven’t been able to talk much to Mr Pradeep who is a triple CCIE but he is also very good. There is another trainer, Mr vasant, for CCIE voice too but haven’t been able to interact with him.
My final words for you guys would be that this blog seems to be a way NG’s rivals are attacking this fine institute. If anyone wants to reach me then my email id is [protected]@rediffmail.com
@shanedude: man it seams you yourself are incapable of pursuing a career in cisco and networking. Dude rather than wasting your time and our time in this bogus chain of comments you should help yourself by finding yourself a career you are actually good in. And man you are an a$$ for pointing wrong accusations at a delightful girl who is only doing her job. You should be shameful for your hurtful comments.
@SureshKumar4532: you are a very strange person if you don’t know the salary drawn by a ccie then you shouldn’t be on this blog. You should first of all get into networking get yourself a petty job and then ask others about the glory of CCIE
@xngstudent: I hold you at very high standards as you apologised for your mistakes which I feel takes a lot of guts. I don’t know what happened during your training but may be you had a bad day.
@mrccie123: perhaps the only person who is drawing attention towards the actual problem that is infrastructure and power backup. I must admit that is a real issue but nothing NG is not working towards. But man you are being an a$$ too...
@dheerajverman: wow you have a terrific english but why are you attacking a single person on the forum. You clam that you took training from NG but why don’t you shed light on the real problems at NG. From your comments it seems someone has paid you to write these comments…
@Ccie Hunter: were you drunk when you wrote your comments?? NG has a superb faculty for CCIE. All the trainers who take CCIE batches are already CCIE. And also regarding cleared students just check the website a lot of students have cleared CCIE in past. Next time if you wish to comment atleast try to add true information. BTW I confirmed the trainer's qualification from other students.
@hemantccieaspirant: check my comments for Ccie Hunter…
All in all i would say that NG is now working towards greatness and they have superb trainers. All those who think otherwise have no idea what they are unable appreciate...
@SureshKumar4532: you are a very strange person if you don’t know the salary drawn by a ccie then you shouldn’t be on this blog. You should first of all get into networking get yourself a petty job and then ask others about the glory of CCIE
@xngstudent: I hold you at very high standards as you apologised for your mistakes which I feel takes a lot of guts. I don’t know what happened during your training but may be you had a bad day.
@mrccie123: perhaps the only person who is drawing attention towards the actual problem that is infrastructure and power backup. I must admit that is a real issue but nothing NG is not working towards. But man you are being an a$$ too...
@dheerajverman: wow you have a terrific english but why are you attacking a single person on the forum. You clam that you took training from NG but why don’t you shed light on the real problems at NG. From your comments it seems someone has paid you to write these comments…
@Ccie Hunter: were you drunk when you wrote your comments?? NG has a superb faculty for CCIE. All the trainers who take CCIE batches are already CCIE. And also regarding cleared students just check the website a lot of students have cleared CCIE in past. Next time if you wish to comment atleast try to add true information. BTW I confirmed the trainer's qualification from other students.
@hemantccieaspirant: check my comments for Ccie Hunter…
All in all i would say that NG is now working towards greatness and they have superb trainers. All those who think otherwise have no idea what they are unable appreciate...
Just look at above two comments. Two new ID's. Both ID's ccie12345 and ccie123456
Both ID's registered on 9th Jan 2013(yesterday). and the only comment they made is NG is best blah blah blah.
Still i need to tell that who is making fake comments?
Both ID's are made by employees of NG.
Just stop this and close this thread now.
I agree with you. All others are lying and you are true. Ok? close it now. Dumbo
Both ID's registered on 9th Jan 2013(yesterday). and the only comment they made is NG is best blah blah blah.
Still i need to tell that who is making fake comments?
Both ID's are made by employees of NG.
Just stop this and close this thread now.
I agree with you. All others are lying and you are true. Ok? close it now. Dumbo
@hemantccieaspirant dude you are the one who is putting all the on this blog. why are you trying to play with the career of real ccie aspirants who might end up going to crapy institutes. And who the f!@# are you to tell people to close this thread. while you make accusations on others look at your own account and starting date. also my friend who is to say that you are not from some other institute trying to discredit NG.
with your attitude there is no doubt that you will always be a ccie aspirant and can never be an actual ccie.
with your attitude there is no doubt that you will always be a ccie aspirant and can never be an actual ccie.
@ccie123456 dude get your own content next time... jacka$$
@ccie12345
These Networkers Guru Complaints are killing me now... How can you be so dumb to call yourself Biggest Institute and look at the attitude of these people who are replying. Such dumbs!! If Networkers Guru is not a fraud company, then why people are writing such things against you? Please tell me something about placements of Networkers Guru?
How come if someone is calling Networkers Guru a fraud company, people with New ID's are commenting to save Networkers Guru's .
These Networkers Guru Complaints are killing me now... How can you be so dumb to call yourself Biggest Institute and look at the attitude of these people who are replying. Such dumbs!! If Networkers Guru is not a fraud company, then why people are writing such things against you? Please tell me something about placements of Networkers Guru?
How come if someone is calling Networkers Guru a fraud company, people with New ID's are commenting to save Networkers Guru's .
@ccie12345, i read ur excuses on this forum in order to save NG's Titanic and i really want to slap on ur face tightly. Why are u misguiding the members over here, GOD wont forgive you for this. I[censored] r an employee of NG then resign frm there my frnd i will take the responsibility o[censored]r placement but dont spread rumors. I studied 8 months in CCIE RS batch and wasted my 95k on it. Let me put flash about NGs trainers :
GOD PRADEEP : Triple CCIE but no time to teach to student. He takes few classes initally and after few days another uncertified trainers comes into picture. Pradeep will definitely go for CCIE datacenter as well. So, no time for RS, Security and Voice. He is now a businessman not a trainer.
RAHUL : He is not in NG since 3 months. I dont have confirmed information about him but he failed in his first attempt. But he is a good boy.
LAB INFRA : Their lab get closed at night. So working professionl like me cannot practise. RS lab setup is outdated u cannot practise MPLS, VRRP etc. on it.
TEACHING METHOD : Foolish and dangerous. They motivate to do lab dumps / cheats instead of clearing concepts which led to huge failure rate. Guys i[censored] even clear CCIE from lab dumps or cheats it is useless, u will fail in interview. Even CISCO will take action against u i[censored] use dumps.
GOD PRADEEP : Triple CCIE but no time to teach to student. He takes few classes initally and after few days another uncertified trainers comes into picture. Pradeep will definitely go for CCIE datacenter as well. So, no time for RS, Security and Voice. He is now a businessman not a trainer.
RAHUL : He is not in NG since 3 months. I dont have confirmed information about him but he failed in his first attempt. But he is a good boy.
LAB INFRA : Their lab get closed at night. So working professionl like me cannot practise. RS lab setup is outdated u cannot practise MPLS, VRRP etc. on it.
TEACHING METHOD : Foolish and dangerous. They motivate to do lab dumps / cheats instead of clearing concepts which led to huge failure rate. Guys i[censored] even clear CCIE from lab dumps or cheats it is useless, u will fail in interview. Even CISCO will take action against u i[censored] use dumps.
@hemantccieaspirant
how F!@#!@# are you, you a$$. you yourself are not capable of facing interviews and you are blaming others for that. read some books, learn how to speak english and keep your attitude in limit as that would help you to get a job. no one will hand you a job you have to fight for it.
@ccie-aspire
i am not misguiding anyone, you are you [protected]@$!@%*. you claim that you studied for 8 months but really ask yourself weather you were even interested in technology or were you there to get into the business. if you cant learn anything in 8 months then you should change your career. you claim to to give placement to me ha what a joke. i have capability to get a job on my own. i am studying for a bright future and NG is helping me to achieve that goal.
i must admit that pradeep sir has no time for us and he must do something about that too, but i have already talked directly to him(and not stab him in back) and he has assured to give us more time. he can go for datacentre or service provider or wireless or what ever he feels to do what is it to you. he is pursuing his own goal and you should take inspiration from him, not critics him.
i have confirmed news that rahul is with NG. he failed his first attempt but passed his second attempt. you can check his status on NG site. he is currently pursuing security. he has good knowledge, i think better than pradeep sir.
i can also confirm that lab are available all night but on request so ask administration for lab at night. i have seen a lot of students in NG working at night. and really i have to admit that your comment that MPLS and VRRP not working was too funny. really you have not learned anything in 8 months. go away from networking you are useless
as far as teaching goes, they focus on technology not dumps. but after technology you can look at dumps so that you have an idea about the lab. otherwise everyone will fail at least 3 times
I WILL ADD ONE FINAL COMMENT
PLEASE DONT LOOK AT ABOVE BAD COMMENTS. THEY ARE ALL SPONSORED BY RIVALS OF NG. NG IS REALLY A GOOD INSTITUTE.
how F!@#!@# are you, you a$$. you yourself are not capable of facing interviews and you are blaming others for that. read some books, learn how to speak english and keep your attitude in limit as that would help you to get a job. no one will hand you a job you have to fight for it.
@ccie-aspire
i am not misguiding anyone, you are you [protected]@$!@%*. you claim that you studied for 8 months but really ask yourself weather you were even interested in technology or were you there to get into the business. if you cant learn anything in 8 months then you should change your career. you claim to to give placement to me ha what a joke. i have capability to get a job on my own. i am studying for a bright future and NG is helping me to achieve that goal.
i must admit that pradeep sir has no time for us and he must do something about that too, but i have already talked directly to him(and not stab him in back) and he has assured to give us more time. he can go for datacentre or service provider or wireless or what ever he feels to do what is it to you. he is pursuing his own goal and you should take inspiration from him, not critics him.
i have confirmed news that rahul is with NG. he failed his first attempt but passed his second attempt. you can check his status on NG site. he is currently pursuing security. he has good knowledge, i think better than pradeep sir.
i can also confirm that lab are available all night but on request so ask administration for lab at night. i have seen a lot of students in NG working at night. and really i have to admit that your comment that MPLS and VRRP not working was too funny. really you have not learned anything in 8 months. go away from networking you are useless
as far as teaching goes, they focus on technology not dumps. but after technology you can look at dumps so that you have an idea about the lab. otherwise everyone will fail at least 3 times
I WILL ADD ONE FINAL COMMENT
PLEASE DONT LOOK AT ABOVE BAD COMMENTS. THEY ARE ALL SPONSORED BY RIVALS OF NG. NG IS REALLY A GOOD INSTITUTE.
i joined networkers guru Fraud institute in September 2012. Fraud owner of Networkers Guru Mr. Pradeep Yadav in Gurgaon, told me about his good links in Orange company. He said that if i will do CCNP voice course from networkers guru, he will give me placement in Orange because he got very good links and relations in Orange. Its being more than 3 Months now. I had paid 60, 000 Rs to him and he is not answering my calls now. I am not allowed to enter in networkers guru institute, because i am becoming negative. and i was telling all students about his fake commitments.
Dont Join Networkers Guru Fraud and Fake institute.
Dont Join Networkers Guru Fraud and Fake institute.
See rahulkyadav, i also did training for CCIE RS but due to medical problems i was hospitalized just before i about to give my lab. See, NG is not a bad institute as compared to others. Rahul who is now CCIE taught me and Pradeep Sir also gave me classes. He never said no for practising labs on real racks anytime i came to institute. Ya, i agree he remains busy but on the other hand Rahul is also a good trainer as far as CCIE RS is concerned.
Regarding placements : I[censored] r a fresher and u r thinking that after getting CCNP / CCIE voice you will get a package of 7-8 lakhs then u r wrong. Even i[censored] r a CCIE Datacenter, do u think company will give authority to access their core backbone network.
I[censored] r joining institutes just for placements and by seeing the lucrative packages attached to the CCIEs without any knowledge or interest u r making a suicidal move, excel in that field in which u have interest. And CCIE is all about passion not money and i bet companies will lick ur balls to recruit u. Orange scheduled my interview 3 times - one for service delivery manager and two time for service desk specialist but i didn't appeared and i wont switch until i pass my lab.
I will join NG in Aug 2013 for bootcamp with Rahul / Praddep Sir. If NG is listening plz reserve my seat.
Friend, i[censored] still have any doubt u can call me at +91-[protected]. I am not a NG employee. My linkedin profile :
in.linkedin.com/in/sainivikas/
Regarding placements : I[censored] r a fresher and u r thinking that after getting CCNP / CCIE voice you will get a package of 7-8 lakhs then u r wrong. Even i[censored] r a CCIE Datacenter, do u think company will give authority to access their core backbone network.
I[censored] r joining institutes just for placements and by seeing the lucrative packages attached to the CCIEs without any knowledge or interest u r making a suicidal move, excel in that field in which u have interest. And CCIE is all about passion not money and i bet companies will lick ur balls to recruit u. Orange scheduled my interview 3 times - one for service delivery manager and two time for service desk specialist but i didn't appeared and i wont switch until i pass my lab.
I will join NG in Aug 2013 for bootcamp with Rahul / Praddep Sir. If NG is listening plz reserve my seat.
Friend, i[censored] still have any doubt u can call me at +91-[protected]. I am not a NG employee. My linkedin profile :
in.linkedin.com/in/sainivikas/
Haha...the guy with 4 CCIE does not know how to teach. He is a great artist. Pathetic and an absolute .Please
I beg you all new students to stay as far away from this run down institute. The facility / toilets filthy and people are useless. Save your money and get CBT Nuggets or spend your money in a decent institute. Don't be trapped in to the 4XCCIE and best training institute banner they promote - You will NOT LEARN ANYTHING...
I beg you all new students to stay as far away from this run down institute. The facility / toilets filthy and people are useless. Save your money and get CBT Nuggets or spend your money in a decent institute. Don't be trapped in to the 4XCCIE and best training institute banner they promote - You will NOT LEARN ANYTHING...
Haha...the guy with 4 CCIE does not know how to teach. He is a great artist. Pathetic and an absolute .Please
I beg you all new students to stay as far away from this run down institute. The facility / toilets filthy and people are useless. Save your money and get CBT Nuggets or spend your money in a decent institute. Don't be trapped in to the 4XCCIE and best training institute banner they promote - You will NOT LEARN ANYTHING...
Pradeep Kumar takes your money to buy awards and takes his picture and paste on the wall...Hahaha
He does not care about his students...Now he is taking your money and your time you paid for and use it to study 5th CCIE.
He is a complete - no teaching experience - Stay away. // Take your money and run away, run far far away
I beg you all new students to stay as far away from this run down institute. The facility / toilets filthy and people are useless. Save your money and get CBT Nuggets or spend your money in a decent institute. Don't be trapped in to the 4XCCIE and best training institute banner they promote - You will NOT LEARN ANYTHING...
Pradeep Kumar takes your money to buy awards and takes his picture and paste on the wall...Hahaha
He does not care about his students...Now he is taking your money and your time you paid for and use it to study 5th CCIE.
He is a complete - no teaching experience - Stay away. // Take your money and run away, run far far away
Haha - "ccie12345" - good institute my foot.
The worst institute in India. Please stop promoting Networkers Guru, all former students know its a run down institute taught by unqualified instructors.
4xCCIE guy is a crook and dishonest businessman. ccie12345 - please shut up about other peoples comment and give honest feedback. All the people I met in NG were either frustrated because of waiting o[censored]ndelivered promises or just couldn't stand the faulty state of the equipment and the filthy state of the centre.
Future Students - please stay away from NG and look up other institute. Or just go to the internet - lots of free CCNA and CCNP material available freely. Save your money and stay away from dishonest crooks.
The worst institute in India. Please stop promoting Networkers Guru, all former students know its a run down institute taught by unqualified instructors.
4xCCIE guy is a crook and dishonest businessman. ccie12345 - please shut up about other peoples comment and give honest feedback. All the people I met in NG were either frustrated because of waiting o[censored]ndelivered promises or just couldn't stand the faulty state of the equipment and the filthy state of the centre.
Future Students - please stay away from NG and look up other institute. Or just go to the internet - lots of free CCNA and CCNP material available freely. Save your money and stay away from dishonest crooks.
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Btw. in case Motive seems to be an Alien word, let me explain Motives does not always have to be negative, it is the way you look at it . Mine was to shed some light on whats what with this institute and i still stand by it, no proper faculty ( cant say about Mr.Pradeep, have no experience with him, but for CCNP, how much i saw of rahul sir, he is just Okey not excellent but okey and ccna is terrible ), bad management and issues power backup .
@xngstudent -- You got carried away from my comments and wrote all those parody of errors. okey, Nevermind . But, Wow thanks maan, i mean, untill today i was never ever aware of my Hidden skills Of 'Influence ', i guess the " Force of the Head " must be quite strong to completely alter the state of someone over internet . Cheers 2 u .. :) :) may you do well.
@Dheerajverman -- thank you so much for showing concern about my studies, Last time around i got into Ng purely attracted by the images of Trophies and medals and the tag of dual ccie posted over the website and some testimonials added with the encouraging thoughts of Mr.Ravi (But Reality ). I assure you, this time around i am in a better place, fortunately, this time around i Took the advise of people who are successfully Working in the industry and i guess it worked . ( cant name the insti. coz. going by your reputation, you would then accuse me of Promoting an insti. lmao ) You guys are unbelievable.