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looted the money on name of courses
| Address: Chennai, Tamil Nadu |
| Website: greedge.com |
They are seriously bull #. Greedge is fake totally fake. I had joined for gre coaching after taking the money there was no response from them they were least concerned about how were my prep going on so never ever join greedge and i did that thing and i am still regretting never ever join them. Worst services received from them. Also the course structure was worst.
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greedge is big scam
| Address: Mumbai City, Maharashtra, 400070 |
1. Never ever go for greedge; they are just into marketing and selling their products with minimal assistance once you are enrolled.
2. First, they will try to get you enroll in some courses for gre preparation post that they will say; now upgrade to e-class which is just avg online classes, better tutorial classes are available on you-tube for free. (Why not they told about the same in the first go; why they want you to upgrade just to get extra bucks)
3. They will force you to buy the courses/classes and tell you some discount coupon is available, later you will realize that these coupons are available throughout the year.
4. Their large chunk of profit is coming for admission support; where they will play with your insecurities and intimidate you to buy their course so that you can apply for us universities.
5. They would keep calling or keep following you over whatsapp to the level to intimidate you to buy their products.
6. They have fake quora profile too by which they publicize their achievements.
7. They are regularly conducting webinars which are repetitive as well by which half of the time they are interested in getting data such as your name, mobile no and email ids so that in future they can harass you by giving you call to make you buy their products.
8. They are into online courses with minimal assistance but good in playing with students' emotion and will tell gre is online and adaptive so greedge is the only good choice.
If you buy greedge product:
1. Most of the assistance through their sfsa are copy-pasted stuff, without any individual assistance.
2. They will not update their feedback for weeks; you have to remind them, again and again, to get your feedbacks ready.
3. They will not be available on call as well, they would try to delay.
4. Gre, in general, asks for good vocabulary building, but their word-bot don't have any catch way to make you learn new words. (Like mnemonics etc.)
5. More than 50% of the exercise questions are repetitive so you are not getting new questions.
Don't go with greedge if you want good gre score and peace of mind.
2. First, they will try to get you enroll in some courses for gre preparation post that they will say; now upgrade to e-class which is just avg online classes, better tutorial classes are available on you-tube for free. (Why not they told about the same in the first go; why they want you to upgrade just to get extra bucks)
3. They will force you to buy the courses/classes and tell you some discount coupon is available, later you will realize that these coupons are available throughout the year.
4. Their large chunk of profit is coming for admission support; where they will play with your insecurities and intimidate you to buy their course so that you can apply for us universities.
5. They would keep calling or keep following you over whatsapp to the level to intimidate you to buy their products.
6. They have fake quora profile too by which they publicize their achievements.
7. They are regularly conducting webinars which are repetitive as well by which half of the time they are interested in getting data such as your name, mobile no and email ids so that in future they can harass you by giving you call to make you buy their products.
8. They are into online courses with minimal assistance but good in playing with students' emotion and will tell gre is online and adaptive so greedge is the only good choice.
If you buy greedge product:
1. Most of the assistance through their sfsa are copy-pasted stuff, without any individual assistance.
2. They will not update their feedback for weeks; you have to remind them, again and again, to get your feedbacks ready.
3. They will not be available on call as well, they would try to delay.
4. Gre, in general, asks for good vocabulary building, but their word-bot don't have any catch way to make you learn new words. (Like mnemonics etc.)
5. More than 50% of the exercise questions are repetitive so you are not getting new questions.
Don't go with greedge if you want good gre score and peace of mind.
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took the fees but did not provide proper service.
| Website: apps.greedge.com/admissiontracker/app |
I was not at all satisfied with the service.
The quality team contacted me, i explained my issues.
In return i asked for a refund, he said that someone will get in touch with me the next day.
But no one called since then.
I have been trying to approach them, but neither is anyone answering the call nor anyone is responding.
I need them to call back and discuss the issue.
The quality team contacted me, i explained my issues.
In return i asked for a refund, he said that someone will get in touch with me the next day.
But no one called since then.
I have been trying to approach them, but neither is anyone answering the call nor anyone is responding.
I need them to call back and discuss the issue.
Oct 27, 2017
Complaint marked as Resolved The team contacted me.
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regarding fees of admission tracker program global
| Website: www.greedge.com |
My sibling submitted the fees of 15000 rs for admission tracker program global in greedge and he withdrawn his name after two days only without availing the program facilities and when we asked for returning of money they said it can't be returned. I understand that some institutes have their own policies and they can;t return money but without availing program facilities atleast they can return some amount. Also when we sent mail to them they didn't revert back till now.
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greedge is big scam! don't buy it
1. Never ever go for greedge; they are just into marketing and selling their products with minimal assistance once you are enrolled.
2. First, they will try to get you enroll in some courses for gre preparation post that they will say; now upgrade to e-class which is just avg online classes, better tutorial classes are available on you-tube for free. (Why not they told about the same in the first go; why they want you to upgrade just to get extra bucks)
3. They will force you to buy the courses/classes and tell you some discount coupon is available, later you will realize that these coupons are available throughout the year.
4. Their large chunk of profit is coming for admission support; where they will play with your insecurities and intimidate you to buy their course so that you can apply for us universities.
5. They would keep calling or keep following you over whatsapp to the level to intimidate you to buy their products.
6. They have fake quora profile too by which they publicize their achievements.
7. They are regularly conducting webinars which are repetitive as well by which half of the time they are interested in getting data such as your name, mobile no and email ids so that in future they can harass you by giving you call to make you buy their products.
8. They are into online courses with minimal assistance but good in playing with students' emotion and will tell gre is online and adaptive so greedge is the only good choice.
If you buy greedge product:
1. Most of the assistance through their sfsa are copy-pasted stuff, without any individual assistance.
2. They will not update their feedback for weeks; you have to remind them, again and again, to get your feedbacks ready.
3. They will not be available on call as well, they would try to delay.
4. Gre, in general, asks for good vocabulary building, but their word-bot don't have any catch way to make you learn new words. (Like mnemonics etc.)
5. More than 50% of the exercise questions are repetitive so you are not getting new questions.
Don't go with greedge if you want good gre score and peace of mind.
2. First, they will try to get you enroll in some courses for gre preparation post that they will say; now upgrade to e-class which is just avg online classes, better tutorial classes are available on you-tube for free. (Why not they told about the same in the first go; why they want you to upgrade just to get extra bucks)
3. They will force you to buy the courses/classes and tell you some discount coupon is available, later you will realize that these coupons are available throughout the year.
4. Their large chunk of profit is coming for admission support; where they will play with your insecurities and intimidate you to buy their course so that you can apply for us universities.
5. They would keep calling or keep following you over whatsapp to the level to intimidate you to buy their products.
6. They have fake quora profile too by which they publicize their achievements.
7. They are regularly conducting webinars which are repetitive as well by which half of the time they are interested in getting data such as your name, mobile no and email ids so that in future they can harass you by giving you call to make you buy their products.
8. They are into online courses with minimal assistance but good in playing with students' emotion and will tell gre is online and adaptive so greedge is the only good choice.
If you buy greedge product:
1. Most of the assistance through their sfsa are copy-pasted stuff, without any individual assistance.
2. They will not update their feedback for weeks; you have to remind them, again and again, to get your feedbacks ready.
3. They will not be available on call as well, they would try to delay.
4. Gre, in general, asks for good vocabulary building, but their word-bot don't have any catch way to make you learn new words. (Like mnemonics etc.)
5. More than 50% of the exercise questions are repetitive so you are not getting new questions.
Don't go with greedge if you want good gre score and peace of mind.
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Truth has been spoken. I tried greedge it's the worst ever. Don't fall for quora most of them are paid and fake accounts.
100 percent true I am experiencing the exact same thing.
Only if rules and regulations would make such companies fearful, such fraudulent business owners would be behind bars.
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Not good for gre training
| Address: Chennai, Tamil Nadu |
| Website: www.greedge.com |
Went through an online training with them for 4 months, did not feel satisfied with the training. There is no personal training as promoted by them. The feedback given after tests is repetitive most of the times. They charge you as a premium brand but, I find the user interface is not even user friendly/ outdated. The material is outdated. The promise, money back guarantee ; which they is a hoax. They do not even provide free help for shortlisting o[censored]niversities or essay writing. They charge for every thing! Total money-minded! Keep calling you incessantly!!
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Counselor assigned to me is of absolutely no help and very slow his name is Subhra.
Kindly change the counselor or refund my money back.
He gave me all details so late that i got reject from all universities. he never replies to any of the queries never picks up calls in short he is useless.
Need a informative and knowledgeable counselor.
Kindly change the counselor or refund my money back.
He gave me all details so late that i got reject from all universities. he never replies to any of the queries never picks up calls in short he is useless.
Need a informative and knowledgeable counselor.
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Totally Nonchalant Service from organization
| Address: Chennai, Tamil Nadu, 600020 |
| Website: www.greedge.com |
An online coaching institution GreEdge, which provides coaching and consultation to the students selecting their universities for education in abroa, basically MS in US. . They used to trick people in Joining their online center with the promise of helping them over telephone.Before Joining the organisation they will call you 10 times a day, after you pay them the fee, they dont even consider you a normal candidate. Their fee for Dream University selection is 18, 000/-. Their consultants have no idea of anything regarding US universities. I used to call them 20 times a day, then also they do not pick up the phone. They have given the contact information of their manager, Director on the web but none of them is useful.You may call them but they will not respond to u at all The problem is when we are applying universities, they have a deadline and we have to finish the task the task such as Resume making and Statemnt of purpose .You ask their student facilitators and they even wont conside it. The deadline of my university is 30 december and i cannot contact them in any way. What all i can do is wait for their call which they don't do. That is they are not only making you fool by not helping you but also pulling you back by delaying your application time. Even after paying them the complete fee, i need to ask to my elders and seniors for help who eventually dont have any idea but working hard so that my career should not be on stake. Now, you can go to google and Just writ greedge reviews and open the pages and you see their reviews online.No one is satisfied with their service.Call on their website and ask about Joining Greedge, they will use all trick to woo in Joining them. I want that they should stop their service because they are not only wooing peopel in Joining them but also pulls them back.I can give all call records and please work had because dont deserve the attention and help.I want back my money back since the institute was no help to me
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Online coaching and counseling for study abroad
| Address: Chennai, Tamil Nadu |
My sincere request to all the gre aspirants and people who are planning to pursue masters degree abroad is to never buy the services of greedge institute. i have learnt this from my personal experience
One of their representatives called me last october explaning about greedge and the service that they provide. he claimed that they havev "subject experts" (lying his a$ off) and that they guide and mentor students in every detail for the application. he said the fee was 25k only for "prestigious" ivy-league program and assigned me to a third party consulting service called one good student (ogs). now the first time i spoke to the ogs councellor regarding my application, i had to literally control my laughter because the guy couldn't speak one correct sentence in english. i mean to think that this guy would be my councelor gave me nightmare that night and ever since then their service has been below standard and unprofessional. after first week of communication, the councelor never got back to me regarding my application and i had sent repeatedly 2-3 mails everyday to get a reply from them. after 2 months, on 1 december when i had to finally call manager of greedge to report this matter. later i was told that my old councelor was on a "vacation" and that they were sorry for delaying the application of 5 of my dream universities. although they improved on their service after that, it was mostly restricted to filling online applications. that's it. which basically any clerk can do and you dont pay 25k simply for this to be done. and yeah one more thing, these people don't know about universities in us or elsewhere. they have a standard list of colleges which they to everyone which you proly wouldnt have even heard. and then i asked them to ediy my statement of purpose (a huge mistake!) and upon seeing their draft i was just dumbstruck.
I honestly feel they are good for nothing people and my sincere request to everone to never enrol in their program. save the 25k for yourself.
One of their representatives called me last october explaning about greedge and the service that they provide. he claimed that they havev "subject experts" (lying his a$ off) and that they guide and mentor students in every detail for the application. he said the fee was 25k only for "prestigious" ivy-league program and assigned me to a third party consulting service called one good student (ogs). now the first time i spoke to the ogs councellor regarding my application, i had to literally control my laughter because the guy couldn't speak one correct sentence in english. i mean to think that this guy would be my councelor gave me nightmare that night and ever since then their service has been below standard and unprofessional. after first week of communication, the councelor never got back to me regarding my application and i had sent repeatedly 2-3 mails everyday to get a reply from them. after 2 months, on 1 december when i had to finally call manager of greedge to report this matter. later i was told that my old councelor was on a "vacation" and that they were sorry for delaying the application of 5 of my dream universities. although they improved on their service after that, it was mostly restricted to filling online applications. that's it. which basically any clerk can do and you dont pay 25k simply for this to be done. and yeah one more thing, these people don't know about universities in us or elsewhere. they have a standard list of colleges which they to everyone which you proly wouldnt have even heard. and then i asked them to ediy my statement of purpose (a huge mistake!) and upon seeing their draft i was just dumbstruck.
I honestly feel they are good for nothing people and my sincere request to everone to never enrol in their program. save the 25k for yourself.
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This is damn true!! I too had the same experience.
Kindly don't join greedge.com for counselling. I had faced lot of problems after joining the counselling program with with them..
1. They will call u nd tempt u to join in the program. Don't ever fall into this trap
2. Secondly, they will tell u that we ll guide u until u land there. That's not true
3. Only for framing ur sop they will help. That too not to our expectations. Just for the sake of duty they ll do.
4. They ll tell skype interviews will be held for visa interview. That's a absolute eyewash.
5. They will assign u a personal counsellor. He won't even respond to ur mails, msgs, even phone calls sometimes
6. Worst part is that they didn't even help me for application process
Have all this in mind before joining greedge.com. I would strongly recommend not to join this program ..
Kindly don't join greedge.com for counselling. I had faced lot of problems after joining the counselling program with with them..
1. They will call u nd tempt u to join in the program. Don't ever fall into this trap
2. Secondly, they will tell u that we ll guide u until u land there. That's not true
3. Only for framing ur sop they will help. That too not to our expectations. Just for the sake of duty they ll do.
4. They ll tell skype interviews will be held for visa interview. That's a absolute eyewash.
5. They will assign u a personal counsellor. He won't even respond to ur mails, msgs, even phone calls sometimes
6. Worst part is that they didn't even help me for application process
Have all this in mind before joining greedge.com. I would strongly recommend not to join this program ..
i've recently joined gre edge counseling and want a refund now..
Never buy the greedge dream university program. The gre training program is good. But this dream university program is sham. These guys just search for information on internet and forward it to you. They dont really provide any good services for the money value of rs.16000/-. Please dont buy it...
Hi Rakesh,
Thank you for your reviews regarding GRE Edge. I too got a call from GRE edge regarding the counselling program and they tempted me to join them.
Could you please suggest me with any good consultant where i could get a better counselling for my GRE application process..
Thank you for your reviews regarding GRE Edge. I too got a call from GRE edge regarding the counselling program and they tempted me to join them.
Could you please suggest me with any good consultant where i could get a better counselling for my GRE application process..
I recently joined gre edge and a day after that i found it not worthy of the money they get. So i asked for the refund. They refused to give the refund but just let me to attend the workshop for the amount that i paid. : (
I have joined your program named "dream university" after paying rs. 18000.
Before i joined the program, i was told that my profile evaluation and university short listing will be done by 10 years experienced people. But when i joined the program i was assigned with shubra as my counsellor who does'nt seem to have even 1 year experience. Whenever i ask a doubt he answers very diplomatically. He does not seem to be confident of the universities he has shortlisted for me. He is now pushing me for universities like csu eastbay (He states a reason that building is very beautiful, what should i do with this?), he is telling me to send my documents to chennai and from there he will send it to universities through a 3rd party consultancies who have link with the universities which will increase chances of my admit.
While joining i was told that my sop will be reviewed by someone who has done ms from purdue university, but same guy shubhra told me to prepare sop and send it. He has done sop editing which removal of a para and added some grammatical mistakes. Nothing more than this. But for 18000 is this what i get? I do not have proper list o[censored]niversities till now. No proper answer for my doubts. There are many consultancies in hyderabad. They charge only 6000 to 8000 and working since 10 -15 years.
Before i joined the program, i was told that my profile evaluation and university short listing will be done by 10 years experienced people. But when i joined the program i was assigned with shubra as my counsellor who does'nt seem to have even 1 year experience. Whenever i ask a doubt he answers very diplomatically. He does not seem to be confident of the universities he has shortlisted for me. He is now pushing me for universities like csu eastbay (He states a reason that building is very beautiful, what should i do with this?), he is telling me to send my documents to chennai and from there he will send it to universities through a 3rd party consultancies who have link with the universities which will increase chances of my admit.
While joining i was told that my sop will be reviewed by someone who has done ms from purdue university, but same guy shubhra told me to prepare sop and send it. He has done sop editing which removal of a para and added some grammatical mistakes. Nothing more than this. But for 18000 is this what i get? I do not have proper list o[censored]niversities till now. No proper answer for my doubts. There are many consultancies in hyderabad. They charge only 6000 to 8000 and working since 10 -15 years.
Please don't go for greedge. They promise you all kind of but the only thing they are good at is robbing you of your money.
1. They say they have an esteemed faculty from iims who will be preparing our sop. What they actually do is just join the answers that you provided to a questionnaire given by them.
2. They'll assign you a counselor who's only job is to ignore the mails, calls and messages of the student. And when a complain is raise for the same, they'll come up with some reason.
3. They'll provide you a list of below average colleges and when you suggest a college, they'll straightaway say that the college is an ambitious choice and getting into it will be difficult. And if you persist on applying for those colleges... Repeat point 2.
4. I tried discontinuing after these three points but they said that the above services costed me 25k. So, no refund.
Greedge is just a group of cheats who'll rob you and do nothing in return. Please don't go for greedge.
1. They say they have an esteemed faculty from iims who will be preparing our sop. What they actually do is just join the answers that you provided to a questionnaire given by them.
2. They'll assign you a counselor who's only job is to ignore the mails, calls and messages of the student. And when a complain is raise for the same, they'll come up with some reason.
3. They'll provide you a list of below average colleges and when you suggest a college, they'll straightaway say that the college is an ambitious choice and getting into it will be difficult. And if you persist on applying for those colleges... Repeat point 2.
4. I tried discontinuing after these three points but they said that the above services costed me 25k. So, no refund.
Greedge is just a group of cheats who'll rob you and do nothing in return. Please don't go for greedge.
They have not given a single service, and very conveniently on the last date of my dream uni application the SFA went on a "personal leave". I had to do everything from scratch. I had the exact same experience and need a refund. Should we lodge a consumer court complaint against these thugs? Someone please help.
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| Address: Bangalore, Karnataka |
I had the worst experience of my life with greedge.com. I request all GRE aspirants not to enroll with this fake site and waste your valuable money and precious energy.They claim to be Asia's largest Online academy, but they are nowhere close to what you call the best.
They have a set of people whom they call as GRE ad visors who will use lot of cheap strategies to push their programs
They tell you that they have a discount campaign going on which will end tomorrow just to make you buy. Also they threaten you telling that you won get good marks if you don't take their coaching.But the fact remains that they resort to all such methods because they are not really worth it.
The Software they use is not up to the standards. The questions keep repeating yourself and the feedback generated is also not very clear.The questions in the verbal section were so easy when compared to the GRE exam. I had a tough time in the GRE exam with the verbal section as they were completely different from the ones i practiced with greedge.
They tell you that they provide 2 highly qualified personal trainers . The trainers can hardly speak English and also they will not be available to clarify your doubts, Rather they may be busy all the time attending their relatives marriage.....WTF.........My trainer gave me an orientation call and after that i had to wait for a week to talk to him, as he told he was busy attending other students. In that case, why do they call them personal trainers????.....They are very keen to make you enroll , but they don care much after that.
They say that the questions are section adaptive but they are not.The difficulty level doesnt work the way it works in the actual GRE. Also most of the questions are repetitive and so its not much use taking lot of tests as you don learn anything new. So please be careful when you receive a call from greedge. Do not fall into their trap and repent for the rest of your life.
Hi everyone!!!!!! My sincere advise to you is not to take up greedge coaching. I had such a bitter experience with them and don want you to suffer. I am a software professional who hardly find time to attend coaching classes and they capitalized on my situation and trapped me.But i seriously regret my decision now. They never delivered anything they promised.They will try to deceive you by tellin that there is a special discount campaign going , which will be going on throughout the year.They tell you that you will get 2 personal trainers, but am not sure if they have properly understood the meaning of personal trainers. The trainers did clarify my doubts, but it was only for the first week or so. After that they were really busy that they couldnt even reply to my questions. My quant SFA cudnt even speak proper english and i had a tough time in getting her message.You can find most of their questions in books like Barron's or Princeton. They make a slight modification to it and claim to have their unique material.Also they don't provide unlimited practice tests and also they are not GRE style ones.The scores will not be revealed and just the range would be told. They suggest a score range which you will get and trust me, the score i landed up in was nowhere close to their prediction.Make sure you don fall in the ditch. An ordinary man learns from his mistakes, whereas a wise man learns from the mistakes of others. "I leave it to you to decide whether TO CHOOSE GREEDGE/NOT."
Just wanted to make my point that instead of spending money on a online academy which lacks credibility, you can rather join a reputed coaching class or else do self preparation..They are just keen to get your money and not bothered whether you are benefited by it.I was about to join Princeton review but these people somehow persuaded me using all their tactics and made me enrol with them.
They just exaggerate their features and try to entice you to join their program because they badly want people to enroll with them.They call you so many times and send you hell a lot of mails saying that the campaign closes in 2 days. But whenever you call the campaign will be on. And when you say that you are ready to enroll with them. Once you make your enrollment, they just don even care about you. I had a very tough time in my preparation and scored very low.
I would have been better off, if i had prepared on my own.... So people , .so friends who come across this post better understand that self study/ going to a reputed institute is good for learning and it helps you to clarify your doubts with the faculty whom you see directly & interact with.
They have a set of people whom they call as GRE ad visors who will use lot of cheap strategies to push their programs
They tell you that they have a discount campaign going on which will end tomorrow just to make you buy. Also they threaten you telling that you won get good marks if you don't take their coaching.But the fact remains that they resort to all such methods because they are not really worth it.
The Software they use is not up to the standards. The questions keep repeating yourself and the feedback generated is also not very clear.The questions in the verbal section were so easy when compared to the GRE exam. I had a tough time in the GRE exam with the verbal section as they were completely different from the ones i practiced with greedge.
They tell you that they provide 2 highly qualified personal trainers . The trainers can hardly speak English and also they will not be available to clarify your doubts, Rather they may be busy all the time attending their relatives marriage.....WTF.........My trainer gave me an orientation call and after that i had to wait for a week to talk to him, as he told he was busy attending other students. In that case, why do they call them personal trainers????.....They are very keen to make you enroll , but they don care much after that.
They say that the questions are section adaptive but they are not.The difficulty level doesnt work the way it works in the actual GRE. Also most of the questions are repetitive and so its not much use taking lot of tests as you don learn anything new. So please be careful when you receive a call from greedge. Do not fall into their trap and repent for the rest of your life.
Hi everyone!!!!!! My sincere advise to you is not to take up greedge coaching. I had such a bitter experience with them and don want you to suffer. I am a software professional who hardly find time to attend coaching classes and they capitalized on my situation and trapped me.But i seriously regret my decision now. They never delivered anything they promised.They will try to deceive you by tellin that there is a special discount campaign going , which will be going on throughout the year.They tell you that you will get 2 personal trainers, but am not sure if they have properly understood the meaning of personal trainers. The trainers did clarify my doubts, but it was only for the first week or so. After that they were really busy that they couldnt even reply to my questions. My quant SFA cudnt even speak proper english and i had a tough time in getting her message.You can find most of their questions in books like Barron's or Princeton. They make a slight modification to it and claim to have their unique material.Also they don't provide unlimited practice tests and also they are not GRE style ones.The scores will not be revealed and just the range would be told. They suggest a score range which you will get and trust me, the score i landed up in was nowhere close to their prediction.Make sure you don fall in the ditch. An ordinary man learns from his mistakes, whereas a wise man learns from the mistakes of others. "I leave it to you to decide whether TO CHOOSE GREEDGE/NOT."
Just wanted to make my point that instead of spending money on a online academy which lacks credibility, you can rather join a reputed coaching class or else do self preparation..They are just keen to get your money and not bothered whether you are benefited by it.I was about to join Princeton review but these people somehow persuaded me using all their tactics and made me enrol with them.
They just exaggerate their features and try to entice you to join their program because they badly want people to enroll with them.They call you so many times and send you hell a lot of mails saying that the campaign closes in 2 days. But whenever you call the campaign will be on. And when you say that you are ready to enroll with them. Once you make your enrollment, they just don even care about you. I had a very tough time in my preparation and scored very low.
I would have been better off, if i had prepared on my own.... So people , .so friends who come across this post better understand that self study/ going to a reputed institute is good for learning and it helps you to clarify your doubts with the faculty whom you see directly & interact with.
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