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From orix company i am receing calls and messages and they are asking me to pay money and threatening me that matter will be drag to court...
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I am a student I started work in orix enterprises one year ago in May at that time they charged me 300 rs/-, after paying that amount they asked me to send my id proof, passport size photo and my signature, after i send those to them they sent me an agreement with my photo copy and with my signature, and in that agreement they mentioned if you doesn't achieve 90% accuracy then you need to pay 10, 000 rs/- as utility...
I am a student I started work in orix enterprises one year ago in May at that time they charged me 300 rs/-, after paying that amount they asked me to send my id proof, passport size photo and my signature, after i send those to them they sent me an agreement with my photo copy and with my signature, and in that agreement they mentioned if you doesn't achieve 90% accuracy then you need to pay 10, 000 rs/- as utility...
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From orix company i am receing calls and messages and they are asking me to pay money and threatening me that matter will be drag to court...
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data entry - blackmailing for money
Address: | ORIX ENTERPRISES, having its Register Office at B-9 Vasant Park, Dhule Road, Aurangabad, Maharashtra-424001 |
I found a data entry job from orix enterprises. They said they would pay 190/- per page and gave workload after asking me to digitally sign an agreement with them (Subjecting to work for 11 months) and a video stating that i agree. They also made me give a passport size photo, aadhar. They didn't tell me about the 10000/- i had to pay for the next workload.
I started working and didn't complete my work on time. They made me pay 8,...
I started working and didn't complete my work on time. They made me pay 8,...
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demanding money
Address: | A-303, PRATIK GARDEN, SECTOR-34, MANSAROVAR, NAVI MUMBAI., Mumbai City, Maharashtra, 410209 |
Website: | www.clickindia.com/profile.php?id=13143 |
Hi,
I have paid rs 300 for the work of data entry after talking to teena (Company representative). Orix sent me an agreement later after i provided photo and signature copy.in the agreement it is mentioned i will have to pay rs.9700/- if i fail to submit work on time or does not achieve minimum accuracy of 90%. Agreement also says only notepad to be used for typing. Font to be used is times new roman, the most difficult font...
I have paid rs 300 for the work of data entry after talking to teena (Company representative). Orix sent me an agreement later after i provided photo and signature copy.in the agreement it is mentioned i will have to pay rs.9700/- if i fail to submit work on time or does not achieve minimum accuracy of 90%. Agreement also says only notepad to be used for typing. Font to be used is times new roman, the most difficult font...
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Sir
I am a student
I registered for this company 4 months back but now they r calling me and harrassing for money
I am a student sir and i can't afford that money
I got mails
Please help me sir
I am really afraid
If it comes legal then my career will fail
It is about my career
Please help me sir
I am really afraid
After 4 months they r calling...
I am a student
I registered for this company 4 months back but now they r calling me and harrassing for money
I am a student sir and i can't afford that money
I got mails
Please help me sir
I am really afraid
If it comes legal then my career will fail
It is about my career
Please help me sir
I am really afraid
After 4 months they r calling...
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fraud company and harassment for money
Address: | Orix enterprise company, Aurangabad, Maharashtra |
Respected sir,
I am an un employee so to earn money few days back i started in orix enterprises at that time they charged me 300 rs/-, after paying that amount they asked me to send my id proof, passport size photo and my signature, after i send those to them they sent me an agreement with my photo copy and with my signature, and in that agreement they mentioned if you doesn't achieve 90% accuracy then you need to pay 10, 000 rs/-...
I am an un employee so to earn money few days back i started in orix enterprises at that time they charged me 300 rs/-, after paying that amount they asked me to send my id proof, passport size photo and my signature, after i send those to them they sent me an agreement with my photo copy and with my signature, and in that agreement they mentioned if you doesn't achieve 90% accuracy then you need to pay 10, 000 rs/-...
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threatening me
Address: | Delhi |
Website: | Orix enterprises |
Long back, i was associated with orix enterprices. They told me to pay 300 rupees for getting some work done.
I wasn’t able to do the work, they asked me to pay 9700. Somehow i managed to pay them because they were threatening me and they closed my case. Now after 7/8 months they are again contacting me and saying to pay 15000. Please help me. I paid 9700 to akshay mistry...
I wasn’t able to do the work, they asked me to pay 9700. Somehow i managed to pay them because they were threatening me and they closed my case. Now after 7/8 months they are again contacting me and saying to pay 15000. Please help me. I paid 9700 to akshay mistry...
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harassing to pay money and number of times
Address: | orx-004 |
Website: | [email protected],[email protected], www.sendspace.com/file/1qqdr8 |
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Orix enterprises company make a agreement online when i provide them adhar card. They first ask me to pay 300 for online job work for 150 pages within 15 days otherwise you will pay 9700 rupees at the time of agreement. I accept the agreement. But due to some reason i can not complete the work. I am ready to pay the amount 9700 rupees. But company did not convey me about their bank details where i have to pay and they...
Orix enterprises company make a agreement online when i provide them adhar card. They first ask me to pay 300 for online job work for 150 pages within 15 days otherwise you will pay 9700 rupees at the time of agreement. I accept the agreement. But due to some reason i can not complete the work. I am ready to pay the amount 9700 rupees. But company did not convey me about their bank details where i have to pay and they...
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Address: | 600083 |
I am nandhini i got a whatsapp message from a person named sushil sharma. He forwarded me few images of the so called company orix enterprises and its very genuine one providing excellent platform to work from home where we can earn with less investment.in the images that were forwarded it was written that we have to just pay 300 rupees as registration fee. And then they will very soon send us the workload of typing directly to our gmail...
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Paying 300 rupees and i was not aware of the agreement and i have sent my signature, aadhar and all my details i got a mail from [protected]@gmail.com he mail was like this
Dear user as we have found that you have not achieved accuracy in your work which is given by orix enterprise-company, so as per the agreement you need to pay utility charge to the company to avoid legal things
Please help me i have no money please help...
Dear user as we have found that you have not achieved accuracy in your work which is given by orix enterprise-company, so as per the agreement you need to pay utility charge to the company to avoid legal things
Please help me i have no money please help...
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Address: | 382, Minnamcodu Plavila veedu punnamoodu, Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala, 695042 |
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Iam Rahul from the poor family. Iam a malayali.poor knowledge in English.I had paid 300/- to the orix enterprises for the online data entry. I couldn't complete the work due to my system break down, i had informed the same to them, but they asked me to pay money. I refused to pay money. Then they told me to pay money 10000/- to company otherwise a case will be filled in my name. They keep harrassing me to pay money. I...
Iam Rahul from the poor family. Iam a malayali.poor knowledge in English.I had paid 300/- to the orix enterprises for the online data entry. I couldn't complete the work due to my system break down, i had informed the same to them, but they asked me to pay money. I refused to pay money. Then they told me to pay money 10000/- to company otherwise a case will be filled in my name. They keep harrassing me to pay money. I...
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Address: | 500027 |
Orix is fooling around all the students within India from different cities they are calling from different phone numbers and what's app numbers to force the students and trying to get the money from them or their parents/guardians I would request the cyber crime team and or the police law and order team to take strict action against them before any or more than one student takes a wrong step.
Everyone reading this, please...
Everyone reading this, please...
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Address: | N.c.pukur, West BengalKolkata, 700122 |
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Orix enterprises company make a agreement online when i provide them adhar card. They first ask me to pay 300 for online job work for 150 pages within 15 days otherwise you will pay 9700 rupees at the time of agreement. I accepted the agreement . After that the file did not open, and erroneously there original mail also had got deleted, and trying to contact they told only through whatsapp that to contact in complain...
Orix enterprises company make a agreement online when i provide them adhar card. They first ask me to pay 300 for online job work for 150 pages within 15 days otherwise you will pay 9700 rupees at the time of agreement. I accepted the agreement . After that the file did not open, and erroneously there original mail also had got deleted, and trying to contact they told only through whatsapp that to contact in complain...
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Address: | B-9 basant park, dhule road, aurangabad, Dhule, Maharashtra, 424001 |
I have joined it for side income. I have done my work somehow within 15 days. But they said your accuracy is less than 90% and you have to pay 9700. If you not pay then legal action will be taken. I pay 9700. And said to him, that I want to close agreement, but they refuse, they said you have to pay more 5500 rs for close it.
But this amount is hidden by company in starting of work.
I have paid all the amount now when I know...
But this amount is hidden by company in starting of work.
I have paid all the amount now when I know...
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harassing me
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I had taken work from this orix company.
They gave me work. But they did not give any training. But still I did the work. And they say I have not maintained accauracy in my work. So I have to pay money. Which I do not have. Kindly help me in this regard. They have taken my aadhar card .i have taken up my research that is why I took this work. But now I only have to pay from where will I'll pay. I asked then to give me one...
I had taken work from this orix company.
They gave me work. But they did not give any training. But still I did the work. And they say I have not maintained accauracy in my work. So I have to pay money. Which I do not have. Kindly help me in this regard. They have taken my aadhar card .i have taken up my research that is why I took this work. But now I only have to pay from where will I'll pay. I asked then to give me one...
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I'm Nataraj
.I had registered in orix enterprises to make some money for my college fees. i had sent my signature, aadhar and all my details to them. I work hard and completed the work within the time but they told me that your accuracy is below 90 percent and my I'd was terminated. So they send me a mail about to pay the utility charges 10, 000 rupees otherwise they file a case against me such that they harassing me . Im affraid.....
.I had registered in orix enterprises to make some money for my college fees. i had sent my signature, aadhar and all my details to them. I work hard and completed the work within the time but they told me that your accuracy is below 90 percent and my I'd was terminated. So they send me a mail about to pay the utility charges 10, 000 rupees otherwise they file a case against me such that they harassing me . Im affraid.....
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Deari Sir/Madam,
This is Praveen, I am also one of the sufferer by this company, at time of joining they asked me to pay 300/- to register with this company, after that they provided me 150 pages jpg images (with poor visible quality some pages) and asked me to completed it in 15 days if in case failed to maintain 90%accuracy i have to pay 10000/- to this company. I agreed that condition to work with them, then after they...
This is Praveen, I am also one of the sufferer by this company, at time of joining they asked me to pay 300/- to register with this company, after that they provided me 150 pages jpg images (with poor visible quality some pages) and asked me to completed it in 15 days if in case failed to maintain 90%accuracy i have to pay 10000/- to this company. I agreed that condition to work with them, then after they...
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fraud company which harass people for money
Address: | Aurangabad, Maharashtra |
Myself jeeva. I had registered in orix enterprises to reduce my family's economy load. i have sent my signature, aadhar and all my details. I completed the work within the time but they told me that your accuracy is below 90 percent and my I'd was terminated. So they send me a mail that you have to pay the utility charges 10, 000 rupees otherwise you have to face the legal issue. Im affraid.Please help me . I am a student. I can't able to...
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harassing for money
Address: | Gujrat |
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I am an student, i was looking for an part time job when i was searching i got a typing job they told its 11 months agrrement, for some reasons. They didn't even sent me email, they did not inform tat i shld pay money if i dont do work, now they are calling me and harrasing me to give money and they have filed a case on me rest of that iam an student so please solve my problem
They are telling that they...
I am an student, i was looking for an part time job when i was searching i got a typing job they told its 11 months agrrement, for some reasons. They didn't even sent me email, they did not inform tat i shld pay money if i dont do work, now they are calling me and harrasing me to give money and they have filed a case on me rest of that iam an student so please solve my problem
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I am aiswarya. I am a student. For paying my study loan i started working in orix enterprises 20days back. They ask me to pay rs. 300 and i paid that. Then they ask me to send my photo, id proof and my signature and one video stating that i am ready to work with orix enterprises. After that they provide me the agreement stating that if i fail to achieve accuracy or submit work within 15 days i have to pay 10000 rps as...
I am aiswarya. I am a student. For paying my study loan i started working in orix enterprises 20days back. They ask me to pay rs. 300 and i paid that. Then they ask me to send my photo, id proof and my signature and one video stating that i am ready to work with orix enterprises. After that they provide me the agreement stating that if i fail to achieve accuracy or submit work within 15 days i have to pay 10000 rps as...
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Respected sir,
I was struggling for financial crises, so to earn extra money other than my part time job, i started my work with orix enterprises. I was told to complete my typing work within 15 days i. E. Before or on 4th june 2019. I have to type on notepad with font size 10 which is very difficult to type. Their one page itself contain 2 or 3 pages if we try to write them on ms word. Despite of all this, i completed my work and...
I was struggling for financial crises, so to earn extra money other than my part time job, i started my work with orix enterprises. I was told to complete my typing work within 15 days i. E. Before or on 4th june 2019. I have to type on notepad with font size 10 which is very difficult to type. Their one page itself contain 2 or 3 pages if we try to write them on ms word. Despite of all this, i completed my work and...
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fraud company & harassing using agreement to pay money
Paying 300 rupees and i was not aware of the agreement and i have sent my signature, aadhar and all my details yesterday i got a mail from akshay mistry
The mail was like this
Dear user as we have found that you have not achieved accuracy in your work which is given by orix enterprise-company, so as per the agreement you need to pay utility charge to the company to avoid legal things
Please help me i am student no...
The mail was like this
Dear user as we have found that you have not achieved accuracy in your work which is given by orix enterprise-company, so as per the agreement you need to pay utility charge to the company to avoid legal things
Please help me i am student no...
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Address: | Surat, Gujarat |
I rewathi got mail for online/offline work from orix enterprises. I joined with initial payment of 300, i submitted within the stipulated time period. As, i received mail from qc my work got rejected. The very next day i called, had a word with mr. Akshay mistry he said our advocate will call u. For i'd termination i am supposed to pay 15200 either legal notice will be issued. They were like the helpline dept can't help if i won't make payment...
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Address: | East Godavari, Andhra Pradesh |
Bro did u receive any form for case... Did you paid 10000 i was also felt in this trap... Please help me any one... For this answer they are asking 10000 or else they will make a case on me... What shall i do... How to cancel the agreement as i signed on... I got a notice for advocate... He is forcing to pay money immediately or else he will submit in court... Please help me...
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I am harsha. My brother got to know about this and he fell into the trap. He left to abroad for his higher studies. He got to know that this is a fake company and he left this. Now they are calling to his number. He kept his number with me as he can't use this number there. Please suggest me what to do. I know this is a fake company as i have read all reviews. They are saying that they will send a legal notice to provided address....
I am harsha. My brother got to know about this and he fell into the trap. He left to abroad for his higher studies. He got to know that this is a fake company and he left this. Now they are calling to his number. He kept his number with me as he can't use this number there. Please suggest me what to do. I know this is a fake company as i have read all reviews. They are saying that they will send a legal notice to provided address....
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Address: | mumbai |
Website: | www.sendspace.com/file/4lb591 |
Sir i am applied for a work from home in online work portal.
One member online wahtsup chatting and send my all details
That person. Andhe is give one app and pay only 300 rupees i will paid by paytm number. After i am getting work load from their.
And after two days i am started my work. Then facing some issues
But no body answered. And suddenly today i am receiving phone call from orix company advocate mob#[protected]...
One member online wahtsup chatting and send my all details
That person. Andhe is give one app and pay only 300 rupees i will paid by paytm number. After i am getting work load from their.
And after two days i am started my work. Then facing some issues
But no body answered. And suddenly today i am receiving phone call from orix company advocate mob#[protected]...
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Address: | Aurangabad, Maharashtra |
Sir/madam,
Orix enterprises has cheated me and asking for money. Right ow, the amount asked is 15000rupees.. I am a student. I cannot pay such an amount. They are increasing the amount each time they send a new notice they have informed that they have filed case against me and are going to send hard copy of case file... Please help me here...
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Orix enterprises has cheated me and asking for money. Right ow, the amount asked is 15000rupees.. I am a student. I cannot pay such an amount. They are increasing the amount each time they send a new notice they have informed that they have filed case against me and are going to send hard copy of case file... Please help me here...
I dont know who to contact...
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Address: | maharashtra, Bulandshahr, Uttar Pradesh |
Website: | orix enterprises |
I am also in this trap, please someone help me. I have also paid rs 300 for registration and has started to do the work. They have given me 150 pages and said to submit within 15 days. I was not much aware of the agreement. I thought
We need to pay 10000 if we haven't completed the work. But i have completed the work within the submission date and i have submitted. But they denied my work and terminated my id and said that there was...
We need to pay 10000 if we haven't completed the work. But i have completed the work within the submission date and i have submitted. But they denied my work and terminated my id and said that there was...
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harassing to pay money to orix enterprises
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I am Ganesh Acharyulu, I am an un employee so to earn money few days back i started in Orix enterprises at that time they charged me 300 RS/-, after paying that amount they asked me to send my ID proof, passport size photo and my signature, after i send those to them they sent me an agreement with my photo copy and with my signature, and in that agreement they mentioned if you doesn't achieve 90% accuracy then you need...
I am Ganesh Acharyulu, I am an un employee so to earn money few days back i started in Orix enterprises at that time they charged me 300 RS/-, after paying that amount they asked me to send my ID proof, passport size photo and my signature, after i send those to them they sent me an agreement with my photo copy and with my signature, and in that agreement they mentioned if you doesn't achieve 90% accuracy then you need...
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