[Resolved]  Maruti Suzuki / Wagon R — Defective tyres

To,
Shri Pankaj Narula, Chief General Manager (Service),
Maruti Suzuki India Ltd. ,
Palam Gurgaon Road, Gurgaon – 122015 (Haryana)

DEAR SIR, Dated: 14th October, 2009



Subject: Defective/Rattling tyres of Wagon R Lxi (Nov 2007), Tyres make: JK tyres - XP ULTIMA



I feel proud to be a member of Maruti family and I have always been fond of Maruti products owing to their product reliability and large sales/service network through out India. I was a proud owner of Maruti product (m800) previously and I am having Maruti product now also (wagon r - Nov 2007). But because of some series of circumstances my trust in brand name "Maruti" has suffered a setback and is a bit shaken up, the reason being a problem being faced by me from past few months which has not been resolved till now that is why I am being forced to write to you. The problem is as described below:



I am a corporate employee and work in a reputed and well known manufacturing organization. I purchased a Wagon R Lxi model (chassis no.: MA3EED81S00599134, Engine No.: F10DN4423323) car from M/s Berkely automobiles, Panchkula in Nov 2007 in my name i.e. Prashant Khullar, resident of H.No. 1006, Sector 12 A, Panchkula, Haryana, 134112. Everything was going well until I first noticed a peculiar "wobbling sound" coming from front left side of the car. Immediately on same day I took my car to Berkely workshop, Panchkula, but the problem could not be diagnosed since it was already 6:00 pm and most of the staff had already left and therefore I was asked to come next day. Next day I went again and reported the same problem to service advisor. He took a road test and didn’t notice anything wrong and denied any such problem observed as described by me and assured me that everything is normal.



Thinking that I may be wrong, I also stopped paying attention towards the sound and came back. But with due course of time I tend to become more familiar with the sound and slowly observed how it behaved at different speeds and soon I could distinguishly hear this sound because by now it had started annoying me while driving.



I again went to Berkeley workshop, Panchkula and narrated the same problem. Again they refused to agree that there is such a problem as being mentioned by me and I was told that “ Sir, aapko waham ho gaya hai” and also told that any sound that is coming so far is because of bad roads and is a normal thing.



A week passed by and I again went to the Berkely workshop, Panchkula. By now the sound was getting intolerable and the pitch and loudness both had increased manifolds.

This time I was desperate to find out the real source of the sound. On my insisting they again checked the vehicle. They again took road tests, checked wheel bearings by rotating the wheel by hand, checked the level of transmission oil, and tried tyres rotation also. After this I felt that the sound has subdued a bit and ran my car for few days. But since the sound was still there I again went to the Panchkula workshop and yet again narrated the same problem. This time also they kept on trying different tyres combination and kept on taking road trials but could not surely diagnose the problem but rather now they doubted the sound may be in fact tyres related. They also advised that they doubt the problem is tyres related so you better get it checked outside because we have done the best we could have done. Heeding to their advice I asked for the gate pass which they were more than happy to give. Thereafter I went straightaway to MRF tyres dealer in Chandigarh and asked him to invert all the 5 tyres and do wheel balancing and wheel alignment for which I paid Rs. 320 separately. Hoping that this will solve my problem I came back but to my utter despair the problem still persisted.



Finally thinking that the solution and diagnostics of this problem is beyond technical ability of staff of Berkely workshop, Panchkula I decided to get it checked from Berkely workshop, Chandigarh. Therefore, I visited Chandigarh workshop yesterday. I narrated them the same problem and they took the road test and they agreed that there was definitely some noise coming. The service advisor who took the road test doubted that the problem seems to be in driver side front wheel bearing and seeing the rush he advised me to come again the next day at 9:00 am, which I happily agreed because now after much R & D, I also was desperate to get rid of this problem.



Today as discussed I reached the Chandigarh workshop at 9:00 am after working in night shift in my plant. My case was again referred to another service advisor by the service advisor who took road test yesterday and he also took road test and doubted that the problem seems to be in tyres rather than front driver side wheel bearing as narrated yesterday and therefore without wasting further time he immediately replaced front left tyre with that of another Wagon R that was being serviced. Again road test was taken and now this time there was no wobbling noise coming from any part of the car and car ran like new. And now they surely declared that the problem is in the tyres and needs replacement. They checked all the 5 tyres and found that the treads of the tyres have been worn out non-uniformly i.e. ¾ th of the tyres perimeter is perfectly OK whereas the remaining ¼ th of the perimeter had treads worn out alternately. This pattern is almost same in all the tyres. This non-uniform wearing of the tyres was causing this noise / vibrations coming from the tyres while the tyres use to rotate. The effect was maximum felt / heard at a speed range of 30 – 45 kmph. They advised me to talk regarding this issue to Berkely Panchkula.



Immediately I went to Berkely Workshop today thereafter and met Mr. Mankoo (workshop manager), cell no. [protected]. First of all he was not at all interested in listening to my problem and expressed his helplessness regarding this matter and asked me to go to the guy who checked the car and talk to him. Not expecting such a response I left the place in sheer despair and by the time I reached parking lot he came following me and without looking at the tyres started negotiating with me regarding getting all the 5 tyres replaced provided I pay 75% of the tyres cost, because as per him the tyres life is 40,000 kms and I have already covered 28,000 kms. He also advised me to get the tyres replaced outside on my own from any Tyres dealer as normally tyre dealers also can give me 25% discount at tyre price straight away.



Now as I have presented my case to you I expect that this matter will be dealt appropriately. As a testimonial of what I have mentioned you can cross check with the job card history, service history and in/out timings punched in workshop security guard’s register to get an idea regarding how many times I had visited the workshop for the same problem which also reflects the efficiency of your dealers to solve customer’s grievances and also reflects the amount of harassment I have under gone. I hope that you will do justice in the matter.



You are therefore requested to provide me free Tyres replacement for all 5 tyres as the problem is not limiting to only one tyre and moreover the tyres have failed to meet the performance standards and deteriorated much before their claimed life.



I hope that my trust and faith in the brand “MARUTI” will not be allowed to break and I am eagerly waiting for quick solution of my problem from “MARUTI SUZUKI”.





Best regards



Prashant Khullar

Cell: [protected]
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WAGON- R (DUO) — NOISE WHEN ROTATE THE STEERING

SIR, I BOUGHT A WAGAN-R (DUO) FROM PREM MOTORS, JAIPUR.THE REGESTRATION NO. IS RJ 14-CG-9070. WHEN THE CAR WAS NEW THERE WAS NO NOICE IN STEERING AND THE AVERAGE OF THE VEHICLE WAS ABOUT 15KMS PER LITRE. I GAVE IT FOR FIRST SERVICE AND AFTER THAT THE AVERAGE OF THE VEHICLE IS ABOUT 9KMS PER LITRE AND ON LPG IT IS 7KMS PER KG. THERE IS A NOICE COMING WHEN I ROTATE THE STEERING . I WENT TO PREM MOTORS V.K.I AREA TO THERE WORKSHOP I WAS TOLD THERE IS A PROBLEM IN A PART AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED AND THE WORKSHOP HAS UNAVAILIBILITY OF THE PART.THEY TOLD ME NOT TO DRIVE THE CAR UNTIL THEY REPLACE THE PART SO I AM STILL WAITING FROM LAST THREE DAYS THAT THEY WILL CALL ME.ISN'T IT AMAZING THAT THE CAR WAS GONE FOR SERVICING AND OIL WAS CHANGED OIL FILTER WAS CHANGED AFTER THE THE AVERAGE WAS DOWN INSTEAD OF GOING UP. SURPRISE TO ME HOW THE WORKSHOP LET THE VEHICLE GO OUT IF THEY WERE KNOWING THERE IS A SOUNG IN STEERING. PLEASE HELP ME TO GET IT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AS I AM LEAVING INDIA FOR COUPLLE OF MONTHS AS I AM AN NRI, WORKING ABROAD.
THANKS
BEST REGARDS
SHIVNANI KIRTI
I do agree with Prashant, I'm from delhi, Even I sent so many mails to Maruti & called them, but there is no corrective action.Even I'm also facing the same problem with my Wagon R.
Actually this problem is with JK tryes, as these are having the manufacturing fault.

Thanks & regards
Virender Arya
[protected]
i am also a sufferer of same problem, in lucknow. when my car was at 30000 km. i got that serviced at ktl hal, lucknow. at that time the workshop temporarily rectified it and i was also not aware that i am correct in diagnosing the problem. now from 37000 km my car has again started bubbling and a sound persists and ktl
person advised me to replace the tyre and not to take jk tyres which the car is bearing since purchase. my car no. is UP 32 BX 6351. it.s most unfortunate that maruti suzuki is not caring to the customers.
I am using the Wagon-R and it is giving me the same problem. As per service advisers the problem is because of the JK tyres. I am NOIDA resident and my car is carrying UP78 BD 1340 registration number.

Regards
Navanit
Dear All,

I'm from kerala, cochin. My wagon R experienced a series of complaints like this from March 2009 till dec 2009. first it was started after doing 45000 KMs service. After that my steering got tight and I visited the work shop (Popular vehicles & Services Elamakkara Cochin . Vehicle no. KL 53 4657) . They will clear the problem but at that time sound from front wheels will start to came. If it is rectified again steering will become tight. They replaced rack & pinion, done wheel checking, bushes and a lot. I don't know exactly what they are doing. They are also asking to check tyres. After some months, I took the vehicle to another service centre in Cochin and they told me that the complaint is of Steering column assembly, and should be replaced which costs around 23K. But luckily my car was under extended warranty and I got it replaced from Popular under warranty. But the sound comes from front wheels. At last I fed up with these guys and connected with the Territory service manager of Maruti. He found that the replaced steering column assemby is also complaint & againg got it replaced. But the sound from front wheels continued, while my steering is ok. Againg routine check up with wheel balancing, alignment, rack & pinion replacement... Finally I sent a mail all of them saying that if not get rectified within specified days, I will go ahead legally. I collected the entire service history also. Then territory manager adviced to take vehicle to INDUS motors and contact workshop manager Mr. Ameer. To my luck he idetified the problem and again replaced Steering rack & pinion, Plunger of steering (Hope I correctly mentioned the part name, it cost just 300 Rs. ) . To my surprise the entire problem rectified but steering little bit tight. Than he told me that it is related to Damper bolt. It should be tightened to the correct point to get steering smooth, and avoid noise from front wheels. But once it is positioned and driven some distances like 300-500 KMs again it got loosed. So Ameer adviced his team member to seal the damper bolt and given me back. After that I never experienced such a complaint.

To Conclude : I promise you that Wagon R will never give you noise from front wheels, very smooth steering exprience, but only problem with these service guys.

I ADVICE YOU TO CHECK THE DAMPER BOLD, PLUNGER OF STEERING, STRUT AND SPRING TO AVOID THIS SOUND. DAMPER BOLD HAD A VERY MAIN ROLE IN THIS CAR.(from my experience)
Please DON'T held up with the service centres, connect with the Maruti service engineers who is in charge of the workshop, shoot a mail showing all details, send advocate notice if not rectified after sending the mail. Remember it is our money. It has it's own value.
WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY DRIVING...I'M STILL USING MY CAR WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM
Sunil Kumar.V, Cochin.
I want to inform you that in this case, I purchased this new WagonR
LXi (Petrol) on 30-11-09 and took its delivery on 02-12-09 from
Eakansh Motors, Kaithal at 6 PM (approx.) and on 03-12-09 around 11
AM, I proceeded to attend a wedding ceremony at Batala (Punjab). And
moreover my sad story has already been told to you wide our mail and
calls. So, it is not a matter of servicing but its a sort of
manufacturing defect on the part of MUL Gurgaon.

Now, the matter of concern is the mental harassment, the inconvenience
as well as the extra expenses incurred by me to reach the destination
in time by hiring a substitute vehicle as it was a very close family
wedding and our presence was mandatory. Moreover money was also spent
to get the tyres and tubes repaired/replaced on the way.

Now, you can very well imagine that its a gross negligence to leave a
valve caps in between the tyres and the tubes while
manufacturing/assembling the vehicle. I bought this new WagonR by
exchanging my old car (Maruti-800) for the sake of reliability/comfort
during travelling but in this case i have lost my faith in Maruti
Products.

Most importantly what i want from MUL is the Compensation amounting
not less than Rs. 1, 00, 000 for the Mental harassment, Problems and the
expenses faced by me due to your negligence while delivering the
defective vehicle to me. I have all the evidences, proofs and the
staements of the people from where i got my tyres repaired after they
got punctured due to the valve that is left in between the tube and
tyre. All these evidences and the damaged tube and the valves are kept
with me as a
confirmation for the negligence on your part while delivering a
vehicle to your customer.Maruti says "Count On Us", Tell me how can I
now Count on Maruti.
And later on at Berkeley Motos, Panchkula it has been observed that
there is a leakage of gear oil from the gear box due to the faulty
parts.

So, do look into the matter seriously and revert as soon as possible.
Its already too late from your side, I want you to expedite me with
the action that you are taking now.

And do look for the photographs attached alongwith this mail that
supports my statements for immediate action and payment of
compensation.

Dinesh Kapoor
Same problem goes with me, m using a wagonr lxi model, which I bought in nov 2007.My car has ran about 29000 kms. & the smae noise problem is faced by me.My point is that why we should pay for the new tyres if it has failed in providing the said perfomance.We are not here to try & do experiments with such things.Its the brand name on which we are relying & taking a call on our hard earned money.The company should really take some serious steps in order to avoid any further harrestments by the customers.

Mehul Buvaria
Kolkata
[protected]
absolutely true. . we trust the brand name and its survival till now is only because of the AAAM jantha which prefers this brand. If the company starts ignoring its customers and focus on dealers... who's gonna buy the cars...


chao

vivek

Maruti Suzuki — Defective Wagon R

I bought a new Wagon R in November 2009 from Competent Automobiles, Connaught Place, New Delhi. Around 1 month back, the car developed snags like knocking in the engine and doesn't carry more than 2 passengers. it gradually slows down after i shift gears to 3 and up. Maruti Service Station of Competent at Moti Nagar, New Delhi was unable to understand the problem and showed it's inability to find a solution. I am fed up and don't know where to go. The registration no. of my Wagon R is < DL 2C AK 9251 >.Can someone help?
Dear Sir, We apologise for the inconvenience caused. Please write in to [protected]@maruti.co.in with your contact details & we will get in touch with you.

Regards,

Maruti Suzuki Care

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