Indian Army Complaints & Reviews

This is a news item I came across in The Tribune, dated January, 1999. The subject matter of this news still exists even after a decade and the matters have become worst. The encroachments done are by these army retirees themselves and their AWHO, sector 47-C, Chandigarh is doing nothing about it as A Crow Won't Pick Another Crow's Eye. They should first demolish the illegal constructions in their houses and then talk about WELFARE OF THE SOCIETY. Just because they have spare time and money are not earning does not mean that they can go on harassing others.

Please read the News Below to see for yourself. You can search with the words AWHO, sector 47-C, Chandigarh on Google to see that this news is authentic. Thanks.

Encroachments galore
Tribune News Service

CHANDIGARH, Jan 19— In the absence of any drive by the authorities concerned, it is encroachments galore in the Army Welfare Housing Organisation (AWHO) flats in Sector 47-C here.

A visit to the sub-sector today revealed that the road berms had virtually disappeared as ground floor residents had encroached upon government land in front of their houses. Angle irons, barbed wires and even pucca concrete structures on both sides of the roads had made the roads narrower, resulting the motorists being inconvenienced.

Besides this, pedestrians are at the receiving end as the residents wash their cars on the roads against the rules. The accumulated water coupled with heavy traffic on the roads have created pot-holes on the roads at many places.

"Water flowing perennially is a cause of nuisance and this coupled with the pot-holed roads has made life miserable for pedestrians", complained a resident. The residents, particularly the elderly and children, find it difficult to move around, especially during night time, other residents alleged.

As most of the owners of the corner flats have erected hedges and other concrete structures, the area has become accident-prone as motorists have to negotiate blind curves.

Meanwhile, the "illegal" construction activity in the flats, often in violation of the building bylaws, has only added to the problems of the residents.

Construction material lie dumped on the roads for the days together, obstructing the movement of vehicles in spite of the decision of the MCC to levy penal charges on dumping of construction material on public places and roads.

Certain other residents alleged that despite these problems being taken up with the civic body many a time, nothing has been done to remedy the situation.

Hey there!!

i live in the same locality & wat u hv said is so true. AWHO sector 47-C Chandigarh is a pain in neck. Most residents r fed of their unreasonable demands bt still comply to them. wat else can v do??

chandigarh cent 143 s.m phone no very argent

Well I live in a civilian area flat in Sector 43. I must say that we Civilians (I have written Civilian NOT CIVILIZED) do real well. I recommend that instead of changing a city you could change your city. There are many other areas you can go to and reside. You will feel very welcome and happy. I agree with you that you are really uncomfortable. Only and Only when you or one of your sons joins the army and goes and dies in a war (Even participate in one) you will change your tune. Thanks for us civilians this country in great.

FROM,
SIGMN U.SWAMY
NO: 15707496F
1 COY (OP-SEC)
11 IDSR (A)
C/O:56 APO

TO,
THE BRANCH MANAGER (SBI)
AHMEDABAD (CANTT)
SUB: - FORGOT MY ONLINE SBI BANKING USERNAME & PASSWORD.

RESPECTED SIR,

My A/c no is [protected] internet banking user id[protected] internet banking password (WCAMHHKB), I forgot my online sbi banking username & password by mistake there why I can't use my onlinesbi banking services, so I will request you to solve my problem
Thanking you sir,
Yours faithfully

U.Swamy
([protected])
Ahmadabad
Date: 25 August 2009

pay slip

15587389f

I definitely agree with the comment. APS should accept the Cheque as is being accepted before.

you stupid women i am ia student of that school but we dint had any prblems and ya my father is commendind a unit also

sgfsvsxv

I definitely agree with the comment and the School should accept cheques

I agree with the concern of the parent. I hope Ms. Malini Narayanan knows that cheque is an accepted form of payment. If you do not have flexibility in your thoughts and actions, how would you instill the same in your students.

A concerned father

I didn't understand why school is not pressurised to AXIS bank to accept the payment of school fee of APS Shankar Vihar in all branchs rather then restricted it to school branch. This will be definetly help the parents.

Retired Army Officer — Non Receipt of Dues

I retired from the army on 03 Nov 08, prematurely. It is sad that despite 8 months having elapsed, i have not yet got my PPO. My DSOPF amount also has not been paid. It is indeed a sad commentary on how much the CDA cares for you. How do they expect a retired officer to survive if they take so long to give pension? I have submitted numerous requests but the CDA does not deem it fit to even send me a reply!!!

Dear Kedar !
You are impalpably and silly excited with a cause ..Think of the hundreds odd civilians who simplistically passed by the casuality. Just think off the mentallity of civil stream first .It is awful . Better first have internal Co-operation that expect from Defence Who is just ment for external safety .!!
You look young im-mature kid.

R S Seoran AEC
SC
(Haryana)

harrasment by indian army security man
my father is an retired JCO from indian army AMC department, my father met with an major accident in which his leg hasbeen broken, iam only responsible in my family for oing all works, i have to go to CSD canteen throgh an army gate where there is a security person name HARBHAJAN SINGH . yesterday iam going to army area for some perpose, he stoped me and told me to show some identity card, i told him that there is a rule of wearing helmet for pasing the gate, iam being going from this gate from past 14 years and no body told me for identity card, he spesk very rudely to me, then i told him that ok i will bring u my father's army identity cardthen will allow me to enter in, he sad ok for that, after 5 minutes i came with my father army ID card with canteen SMART CARD and ECHS CARD, i showed him the cards than he told me where is your id card, i told him i haven't made my id card as iam working in MNC compony there is no use of that for me, icame to u before 5 minutes at that time u told me to bring my father ID card and now u are refusin that, that person speak very rudely to me, than i showed him my driving licence to show the blood relation of mine, he again refuse to look into, kindly conferm me is iam caring a fake ID CARD of my father or there is no value of retired army person and there family.please thke some action on such person's who don't know the manner's of talking with some retired army person(sujanpur road pathankot, pathankt, near railway fatak)



regards sanjeev sharma
[protected]
pathankot

To mister R S Seoran AEC,

Who thinks I am an immature kid.

Dear mr. hihgly matured person, If your kid is been hit by a truck, and a fellow human in front of you is not willing to help then will you first think of odd civilians who simplistically passed by the casuality or mentallity of civil stream?

Its really shamefull to read to your reply who talks about internal Co-operation. Doesnt internal cooperation apply to the defence men, who can see the person dying on the road.

Seems like you have gained your maturity by ignoring such things.. thanks for letting me knw that there are such types of people as well.

Kedar Pingle

@ R S Seoran AEC

I will not think abt the world or other casualties or any other civil problems before helping a needy.

I think Kedar has done a good, responsible and matured thing by reporting this.

Ramesh Adhikari

I am simpathasied with regards sanjeev sharma
[protected]
pathankot

I totally agree to what Kedar said, i think Mr Seoran might be an army personnel thats why he cant listen the misdeeds of his clan.Shame on him and his mentality.I am son of a retired army personnel, i used to believe in army for the last 20 yrs, but now they have tarnished their name n fame in atleast my eyes.I was supposed to take admission in an army college that required a medical fitness form which was to be signed by any medical officer at Military hospital and Not ECHS, but the thingummies did not signed it after repeated visits to the hospital, actually they treated me as a burden and shifted their responsibility on others.Even a Officer of MAJOR rank, thwarted me away, and showed me the gate.My fault was only that i was talking in proper english, that hurt their ego that how can a lower rank individual's son interact like this.Even after filling the half details he told me to go to someone or asked to go for a civil doctor, at that time i was left in a lurch, and i was only regretting why my father served army for 26 odd years.

i had heard that army men are rude and bit mental, but after passing through the ordeal i had faced i feel the same.

Raj
Patna, Bihar.

It is very well evident from the language & content of the comment that the individual is a civilian (who also chose to hide his identity inspite of complaining in an open forum) who may not even be legally authorised to get CSD facillities. Even if the individual has somehow managed to enter CSD, it must be understood that it is not a PDS Shop, Officers & families will definately get priority as Army works on Heirarchy. My sincere suggestion to all such people is to refrain from venturing into 'ARMY' canteens if they are not comfortable with their style of functioning!

It is evident that some civilians want to enjoy the facility of CSD given to army but do not want to get the pains for which the army has been given the facility of canteen at lower prices. On top of it they now want army to function on their terms and treat them as if they are doing army a favour by purchasing items from CSD. In their own departments and offices they are very submissive in front of their senior officers because of possible ire they may face at the hands of senior officers if they do so. Who knows what they may do for convenience of their senior officers.

I am fully agree with above two comments. Can I ask Mr Civilian that when some army personnel comes to their office do they treat them with any special attention, or they treat them as equals as their seniors or colleagues. I have seen in Passport Offices, Banks, Railway Stations and all places that at that time they behave likes alien towards army pers. If you have such a prob than dont visit CSD...lot of Malls are there for pers like you.

Respected Sir,
Kindly read this mail with patience and caution. Now I am going to reveal some secret problems to be dealt with. The problems are related to corruptions done in CSK Canteen, Trichy division.
From our canteen many liqour bottles have been corrupted with the influence of the manager. A dealer buys 10 bottles for 400Rs.Even inside the canteen kitchen they are selling in pegs. They are minting money through this illegal business. All the bottles are going out with the knowledge and prior permission of the manager. The main culprit is A.JOHN LOUIS. He is the security in tanjore canteen. Now at present he is in trichy canteen.He is the right and left hand of the manager.At 4 o clock he will leave canteen before his duty time is completed.Only with his knowledge everything moves out,
The customers who apply for smart card will use paper cards until the smart card is given to them.With help of those numbers from the paper card the customers buy goods.After the purchase is over the paper card will be locked.Per day not even 10 paper cards will be circulated but they prepare 20 to 30 paper cards and buy lots of liquors and sell it outside illegaly. This is done with the help of the manager. The person who possess a little computer knowledge can find all these corruptions easily.
For Eg.On 11/03/2010 only three paper cards have been entered.

PAPER CARD NO. ARMY NO. NAME

GRO[protected] Late.Mariyappan
(P.C no.02426)

GRO[protected] Late.Jaganathan

[protected] Chauhan Ajmal

But there are more number of cards been entered, they are

PAPER CARD NO. ARMY NO. NAME

[protected] Sivakumar
14264168A 06875 Sivakumar
[protected] Shanmuga vadivu
0007 JC196014 A.Sundaram
[protected] A.Louis
[protected]A Nithyanandham
[protected] Nithyanandham
[protected] R.Krishnasamy
4774A 219965A R.K.Samy

This smart card maintanence is done by Mr.Kaalamegam. A 67 age old man who is working since 2003 but the shocking news is that he is not a canteen staff. He is the binami of manager Mr.Balraj.
Manager G.Balraj and Kaalamegam will not give smart card to the customers at once.They will use the customer's smart card for 2 to 3 months and buy the goods and sell them outside. There are some brokers who get commision of about Rs.100 per Rs.1000. Per day they sell goods worth Rs.50, 000 and gain a commision of Rs.5, 000. Their average commission per month will exceed more than Rs.1, 00, 000. They have 2 to 3 contractors for moving the goods.Everything is done with the knowledge of watchman LOUIS. He collects Rs.500 per negotiation.From the year[protected] each customer was given seperate card for liqour and goods.But the watchman will only give goods card and keep the liqour card with himself.When the customer claims for the liqour card they give a new one. If you raid the manager's house you can get 100's of liqour cards. They have minted more amount of money with the help of these liqour cards.The culprits are Radhakrishnan Asst Salesmen in Tanjore, Rajendran from Vasantha Bhavan Hotel and Kamal. They are all the Binami's of the manager Balraj.
Rajendran knows all the staff's of the canteen.He acts like a Asst.Manager and gives orders to the staff's.He has more than 10 Officers smart cards.
There is a woman who worked in Nagapattinam canteen as a sales woman (Tamilselvi) is now transfered to Trichy Branch.She is at present working in liqour bill section. She joined here with the manager Balraj's recommendation. She even don't know to type her own name in English but she gets the Highest Salary among the canteen staff's. Likewise Jaya a person who worked in Namakkal Canteen is now transfered to Trichy. Another influencial person is the unloading man Pandiyan. He moves out the liqour bills with the help of Tamilselvi.
Pandiyan, Tamilselvi and liqour sales man Ravi with the help of the watchman Louis is doing this illegal business. Manager Balraj is the sole owner of this illegal business. Manager Balraj will correct all the staff's who comes on inspection by taking them to some holy spots and brain washes them.He will give them box and boxes of Money. He always uses vulgar words to abuse all the staff's. Nobody will open their mouth against him. If they do so he will book fake cases on them and send them to Jail. He has corrected all the Policeman by giving them liqour bottle's.
The manager Balraj will give all the loading and unloading charges not in money but in liqour bottles. If a customer misses his smart card in the canteen they will keep it to themselves and if the customers ask for the missing card then they will ask them to bring the F.I.R copy and then ask him to apply for a new smart card.
For Ex. Missing Card Numbers...

ARMY NO. RANK
[protected] GDSM
NAME- A.MUTHUKRISHNAN
SMART CARD NO. LA[protected]

15784756F- GNR- R.J.SELVAM
SMART CARD NO. LA[protected]

At the same time the smart cards of the expired persons is used by them for 2 to 3 months and then only they hole the cards. Through a single dealer the manager gets more than Rs.1, 00, 000 money. Under his undertaking there are 5 canteens. So he gains more money which he burries in the underground of his house.He has spies in every departments.Nobody can complaint against him. If done he will easily find it out.For each postman he would give 2 liqour bottles per week. This is because nobody should write to the higher authorities against him and if it is done they will give all the letters to the manager Balraj himself.He will give 4 bottles for the despatch clerks in the station head quaters and ask them to neglect all the complaints before rooted to higher officials. He is acting like a good person after commiting so many crimes.Ther are many Ex service man without a job but he has appointed a 67yrs old culprit. Is this fair? In the coming Month he has appointed many new candidates. They will also work for him. Then the canteen will not be saved at all.

You Army Personnels are our servants not we civilians ...so next time be quiet & come in line...

ARMY CANTEEN
respected sir,
my father was work in indian army in 17 years.he is retired and he worked in tamilnadu police in one and half year. my father dead in 2008.my mother was not come outside. so i come to shopping in their military canteen. thanking you,
once again requested for my family.

Is it possible to pay the bill amount by debit card? Can I do cashless transaction?

army — train journey

i travelled from PATNA to FAIZABAD n train no 3843 which was the worst train ever seen. It was ate by 3 hours in PATNA on 23 jan08 and reached faizabad 4 hours late. very bad food. While retuenibg in 2392 shramjivi in first ac from lucknow to patna on 25 january 08, vide pnr no [protected], all compartment were very dirty andno one to take care. No food availble by 930 in train. please take action.
COLONEL BP SINGH
DHARHARA HOUSE
NAYA TOLA PATNA
PHNE 2672566
2686697

India Govt is [censored]

Hi,
My Father was in Army(Infantry).Served for 28 Years. He is suppose to get arrears based on 6th pay commission. He is account is in Syndicate Bank. When he is asking from Bank, they are not responding.
My father's other freinds received their arears. Please suggest me what action we can take.
Because of this he is facing mental torture.

Regards
Sanjay

felix raja

please my mobile verficaton code

army — Non delivery of order

DELIVERY OF GIFT FROM GIFTSNNEEDS COMPANY

1. I had placed an online order via company gifts and needs to be delivered at delhi on 20 feb 2010 ( company web site www.giftsnneeds.com ) vide Order Number:[protected] placed on 14 Feb 2010. 2. The order was from company giftsnneeds address
Corporate Head Office:Gifts N Needs (India)
36A, New-Santoshpur Main Road
.Kolkata – 700075
3. The order was not delivered, when contacted on the helpline, person on the help line disconnected the call and when told to refund the money refused to deliver the order.
4. A mail was then sent to the administrator on the same. It was told by a delivery boy that the order will be delivered the next day(21feb 2010), however it was not delivered. When a clarification was seeked at 1800 hrs on 21 Feb 2010 it was told that the order has been cancelled and the money will not be refunded.
5. Please look into this matter my phone number is [protected].

speed post is accepted in Indian army or not?

what about 6th pay dets for ex army pers sir ?

Change of mobile no: from 8886747200 to 9676779479

I am sbi card holder. My card no. Is[protected] please change my mobile number to [protected] from [protected] for the updates.

Thanking you,
D. Murugan

army — closing of postpaid

dear sir
I am serving in defence and just posted from allahabad to pune.I had post paid connection there.my nos are [protected] and [protected].my plan is addon plan.
my monthly bill is closed on 22nd of every month.

i request you to close my post paid connection.there is no airtel gallery near to my location.
thanks..please reply

INDIAN ARMY — cessation of connection

this is to bring to your kind information that i was having a post paid connection of vodafone at Pune.Now, being an army officer as a part of my duty, I have moved out of Pune.so i request you to guide me through the procedures of stopping my postpaid connection.my vodafone postpaid number is [protected]

NON REFUND OF REGISTRATION AMOUNT
MY Name also does not figure in the list of allottees for housing scheme dec 2008.While my colegues have recieved the refund of Rs 150000/-i have still not received the same.i had forwarded the amount through SBI Bank DD no.644585 on 26.8.08 which has been encashed by DDA on 11.9.08.My application No. is 9256743.Please refund the amount at the earliest and inform the action taken.
LT COL V K SINGH

mY APPLICATION NO. is 644585.i have fwd registration amount through SBI Bank DD No.644585 on 26.8.08.please send me the refund at the earliest as my name does not figure in allottees list.
Lt Col V K SINH

The Soldier who worked in Rajastan Ganga Nagar has spoiled me by saying he will marry me, & now he has changed his phone no & Escaped;

His Details are NAME: SOLDIER-R.JOTHI BASU
Till 2008 Dec he was in Rajastan GangaNagar worked as ARMY HMT ;
Native- Tamilnadu- Theni District- Kombai;

Regards,

Malathi

Dear Sirs, My sister A.Sowmya wrote entrance for Bsc Nursing on !st Feb, 2009 and we are anxiously
waiting for the results.
So, kindly let us know in which web address we have to see the results and the date of
releasing of the results.
Expecting your early response
.
With Regards,

A.Swapna.