[Resolved]  CIBIL — Serious complaint against cibil and save our nation to become slave

Sub: serious complaint for cibil and bank's‏
From: manubhai mehta ([protected]@hotmail.com)
Sent: 07 march 2009 15:18pm
To: [protected]@gmail.com; [protected]@gmail.com; ashvin.N.[protected]@ril.com; [protected]@gmail.com; [protected]@yahoo.Co.In; [protected]@thinkpeople.In; sandeep.Y.[protected]@accenture.com; [protected]@cura.In; [protected]@gmail.com; [protected]@gmail.com; [protected]@gmail.com; p som ([protected]@lntecc.com); [protected]@hotmail.com; r.[protected]@cro4india.Org; [protected]@gmail.com; vidya iyer ([protected]@rediffmail.com); [protected]@moneycontrol.com


I am fighting with cibil. And i assure all of you that we will win, because of our judicial system may it will take some time but dont give up we all have to fight to get justice and our fundamental rights as an indian. Pleasee give your support to me to fight with them .This is the latest corrospondence i had with all higher authority of india like president of india, financeminister of india prime minister of india, deputy governour of rbi, supreme court of india and also i wrote this to [protected]@moneycontrol.com i.E eletronic media, and further i want your suggestions that now i want to take up this mater with electronic media and flash this matter to all our india, for that i want your support so please confirm this as soon as possible.

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From: [protected]@hotmail.com
To: [protected]@iba.Org.In; [protected]@rbi.Org.In; [protected]@finance.Nic.In; [protected]@rb.Nic.In; [protected]@moneycontrol.com; [protected]@consumergrievance.com; [protected]@rbi.Org.In; [protected]@cibil.com; [protected]@sansad.Nic.In; [protected]@nic.In; [protected]@rbi.Org.In
Cc: [protected]@yahoo.Co.In; [protected]@gmail.com; [protected]@aihra.Org; [protected]@hotmail.com; [protected]@yahoo.com
Subject: serious complaint for cibil and bank's
Date: sat, 7 mar 2009 14:16:09 +0530



Dear sir,


All banks provide credit information to cibil without any strict proof like any judicial court order decree for recovery of their dues any borrower is not defaulter debtor unless and until ther is any authentic judicial court order because of cibil many eligeble persons do not get bank loan only small borrowers are victims of cibil it is injustice to small borrowers on other hand all banks prepare their balance sheets to show rosy picture by showing false figures of assets like receivable amounts actually that is not all receivable a day will come on that a big scandle of many banks will come out like satyam computor and many bank will have to go for insolvancy it must be stopped with immediate effects to save our nation all banks should not provide any credit information to cibil without any strict proof in the interest of natural justice prompt and rapid action be taken cibil is illegal company as any company carring on a bussiness of credit information has to obtain a certificate of registration from rbi before commencement of bussiness.

It is mandatory under circa(Credit information regulating company act) we have recived a letter from rbi singed by v.S .Das (Executive director and cpio)stating that cibil has not obtain certificate of registration from the rbi till the day of the letter that means cibil is illegal company.Even though sevaral complaint to rbi for cibil till today no action has been taken. Why?

It's seems that cibil is working in colluation with rbi, ministry of finance, and all india bank association . To best of knowledge and belif it's seems that again we are repating the action of our fore father to go for slavery of other nation as in the past east india company acted. It should be stopped with immidiate effect to save the nation and for the fast growth of our young energetic youth in the intrest of natural justice.



Thanking you,

Your's faithfully



Manubhai v mehta (Seniour citizen)

Jt. Secretary of all maharashtra human rights (Borivli unit)

Regd.No.Mah/697/07/thane

Cibil is illegal under 17. Act name : the credit information companies (Regulation) act, 2005
17. Act name : the credit information companies (Regulation) act, 2005
Act title : no. 30 of 2005

Enactment date : [23rd june 2005.]


4. Section(Chapter ii)
Registration of credit information companies

5. Section(3.)
Prohibition to commence or carry on business of credit information.

3. Prohibition to commence or carry on business of credit information.-save as otherwise provided in this act, no company shall commence or carry on the business of credit information without obtaining a certificate of registration from the reserve bank under this act.
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Neither you deny nor you agree with my above points it is universal truth that silence is signal of affirmative.
I did intimated you that not a single bank/credit institution have even filled any case of recovery in any judicial court and have not got any judicial court order
Against me and my family members. Even though our names are in your negative credit information report.


Dear sir,
I acknowledge your mail dt.22/09/2008.I am failed to understand that why do you kick me like football. On one hand you say that your members supply data of credit information to you and you circulate to your other members, so that you are well aware that who have created and supplied data of credit information and even though you ask me to approach your member or to approach who have denied for credit and to get 9 digit code from them and if they do not provide me then i should mail you name of such institute/bank with name of officer, branch and telephone number etc. Is it not reverse exercise? Though you are having full knowledge of your such member?
It seems that you are intentionally avoid to reply my following points:
(1) your commencement and carrying on your business in republic india is illegal. It is violation of bank act and cicra 2005.
(2) you are circulating credit information to your other members without verifying strict proof of any judicial court order. In republic india every citizen has right to get justice, given by constitution of republic india without any strict proof, only by saying one sided, it does not become truth or facts. Thus it is injustice to victim of your business, i.E. You are taking away fundamental right of indian citizen. Therefore your business is unconstitutional. It is violation of constitution of republic india.
(3) as a result of your illegal business a young energetic with high ambition indian citizen’s life becomes ruined, he constrained to go for suicide. Thus knowingly or unknowingly, you are part of worst result of your illegal business. It is an offence under indian penal code section 304, 307 and 120(B).
(4) by your illegal business a young energetic indian citizen is being defame. It is violation defamation act 1860, under section as below:


1. Act name : the indian penal code, 1860
Act title : act no. 45 of 1860 1*

Enactment date : [6th october, 1860.]




36. Section(34.)
Acts done by several persons in furtherance of common intention.

. 1*[34. Acts done by several persons in furtherance of common intention.--when a criminal act is done by several persons in furtherance of the common intention of all, each of such persons is liable for that act in the same manner as if it were done by him alone.]



38. Section(36.)
Effect caused partly by act and partly by omission.

36. Effect caused partly by act and partly by omission. Wherever the causing of a certain effect, or an attempt to cause that effect, by an act or by an omission, is an offence, it is to be understood that the causing of that effect partly by an act and partly by an omission is the same offence. Illustration a intentionally causes z's death, partly by illegally omitting to give z food, and party by beating z. A has committed murder

26. Section(24.)
"dishonestly

24. "dishonestly".--whoever does anything with the intention of causing wrongful gain to one person or wrongful loss to another person, is said to do that thing "dishonestly".

46. Section(44.)
"injury".
44. "injury".--the word "injury" denotes any harm what ever illegally
Caused to any person, in body, mind, reputation or property.


17. Act name : the credit information companies (Regulation) act, 2005
Act title : no. 30 of 2005

Enactment date : [23rd june 2005.]


4. Section(Chapter ii)
Registration of credit information companies

5. Section(3.)
Prohibition to commence or carry on business of credit information.

3. Prohibition to commence or carry on business of credit information.-save as otherwise provided in this act, no company shall commence or carry on the business of credit information without obtaining a certificate of registration from the reserve bank under this act.


Neither you deny nor you agree with my above points it is universal truth that silence is signal of affirmative.
I did intimated you that not a single bank/credit institution have even filled any case of recovery in any judicial court and have not got any judicial court order
Against me and my family members. Even though our names are in your negative credit information report.
I hereby inform you finally to delete our names with immediate effect under advise to me with in 3(Three) days, to avoid legal prosecution, failure to which i shall be constrained to initiate legal action which please be noted.
Thanking you,
Yours faithfully,
Manubhai v mehta.(Senior citizen)

C.C.To: her highness president of india (With request to get me justice)
Hon’ble prime minister.
Hon’ble law and justice minister.
Hon’ble finance minister
My lord chief justice of supreme court of india
(With request to consider - this letter as pil)
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Guys, I got a another shocking information for you. I have copied and pasted the rule from CIBIL web site "If you have applied for a number of loans in the recent past, the chances of your loan getting approved are likely to suffer. Simply because, this credit behaviour indicates that you are “Credit Hungry” and in an urgent need of money. It is likely to make Loan providers more cautious while evaluating your credit application". I don't have any loan, no credit cards what so ever but I applied for loan in 2 banks simultenously and thats the reason my loan got rejected. If a bank rejects your loan it will decrease your credit score. SO NUMBER OF LOAN APPLICATIONS WILL BE A LESSER CREDIT. GOD DAWN SAVE THIS COUNTRY AND THIS POOR PEOPLE. Our loan are in a foreigners hand "Transunion and Duns bradstreet" and we are celebrating independence day. What a comedy...

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cowardice and rat hearted big blot on humanity

yashoba Mar 29, 2012
I Mr. Sachin j zendhe would like to bring to your notice that you are defaming me and my company . If ever you are having the guts then contact me on my phone or else i am going to lodge a complaint against you in Navi-mumbai police cybercell department.

This can bring you in lot of troubles also it can destroy your entire carreer. You can call me my number is [protected].
who are these people to decide. Its like others peeping in to our financial matters, not only peeping but also
giving a lot of troubles to the innocent people. Please let us take some action against this.
Dear all,

This CIBIL Agency is created for good work, but now a days this cibil agency report is Misusing by the Banks/Companies to black mail the employee who had lost the job and not getting jobs again because of this cibil report.

1. CIBIL is created for creating unemployment in this country

2. If Jobs are lost and not getting job again because of this agency, then how shall i repay my dues to the banks to get my name clear from the banks

3. Immediately cibil agency should restrict their report to the bank and tell them not to use for jobs creation, if it continues then very serious problem for job environment and no will get the jobs like me.. i am in the bad position because of this CIBIL..



regards
Hakeem
Dear all,


This CIBIL agency is creating advoc and creating unemployment in this country..

Banks are playing with all job opportunity people who are not getting jobs and not able to pay any outstanding dues to the banks because o[censored]nemployement.

All banks are taking cibil report as a tool for not giving any job opportunity to the job seekers.. This cibil should be stop and tell all the banks not to use this report agency for job seekers in the market.

regards
Hakeem
Dear sir.

Please find attached here-with a details of loans taken by me :-

1. Shriram city union finance – Loan account no –ISH1TWAN505633 – LOAN IS CLEARED ON 09.2007 STIIL IS SHOWING IN CIBIL
2. AXIS BANK CAR LOAN – A/C AU[protected] – NO CHEQUE BOUNCE DUE TO INSUFFICIENT BALANCE

PLEASE CLEAR THE SAME.
Even I would like to join for the fight against CIBIL and its unilateral rating. There has to be clear demarcation between scandalous personalities and people with small salary who believe in hard work and want to live life in self respect. CIBIL and few banks like HDFC, ABN AMRO project a person who has re payed loan of 15+ lakhs without single rupee penalty to a person who is unfit for taking personal loan for meager Rs 10000 dispute between HDFC and me. I even owe a fight against HDFC bank who misplaced my cheque and put hefty fine and forced me to caugh 25000 without any fault.

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Yes, CIBIL is doing too much. CIBIL having nice relationship with all banks and whatever Bank says they are just following. So CIBIL is just stupid company who they are working with all banks to spoil the people. One day most of the bank will be shut down due to this kind of actions... Lets wait for that day to laugh!!!
Dear frnds, CIBIL for that matter boasts on their state of art credit scoring procedure adopted from Transunion. I have recently been victimized by their so called scoring procedure and despite of clearing my all outstanding my Transunioun score dropped significantly from 733 to 623 points. There is no clear explanation from their side despite of several communication.

After all this communication and closely tracking their replies I am under the impression that this so called state of art credit scoring system is nothing but a bluff and is highly manipulative. After all this followups I am feeling restless, more because I am not sure now where to go and whom to complain about CIBIL.

If you notice, there is no body who looks in CIBIL matter and help to get you justice. In case of bank we have banking ombudsman where ultimately we can go and raise our issue if not considered by concerned bank, but for CIBIL there is authority but CIBIL itself. What a catch 22 situation we are into now.
Dear all,

i am also want to have information regarding the below issues.

1. CIBIL had destroyed my life and my career,

Because of this cibil report by banks for non payment of credit card dues for one month they had reported negatively to the banks and companies, now i am jobless from last 3 years and my career had been destroyed by this banks negative report to the CIBIL and they are using this negative reports for job opportunity.

Banks collection people are harassing my family and threatning me and my friends parents too not spared,

Please tell me how should i go forward and complain regarding this CIBIL.

Regards,
Hakeem
email id; mohd.[protected]@hotmail.com
Dear Friends,

i fully support to you and please keep updating me how to fight this CIBIL Agency, which is creating unemployment in this country and their report had been misuse by the corporate world and denying me the job opportunity to clear my dues on credit card and Personal loan.

i had been fighting with them but not coming forward to settle my cards, they are threatening me and my family to pay whole dues. My career had been downfall from last 4 years and difficult to survie .

Please mail me any important persons email ids in RBI, CIBIL, OTHER DEPARTMENT TO MAKE A NOICE ON THIS MATTER

regards,
Hakeem
Cibil is an institution or rather a mafia meant for creating the disputes ( bogus ) and do the business with the disputes troubling the consumers and making their very vulnerable to attacks by collection and mediating agencies. In one sentece it is pool of identity thefts.
What right does this institution have to enable the Banks to just threaten the consumers with fake and false dues have database of bogus dues?
And identities

CIBIL is a nonsense and loosing its credibility for what it originally meant for?

Definitely it was not originally to induce the easy path of identity thefts and creating work for mediating settlement agencies literally road side goons and roudies?
If CIBIL is not accountable for the erroneous entries, how is its report is a deciding factor for the loans ?
Dear Sir

It is observed that most of the Bank/NBFC do not follow the guidelines at clause 6.2.c. of the Master Circular on Credit Card by RBI. The copy of the said Circular is attached herewith.

Also as per the information provided to me vide my RTI Application that no action has been taken against these Bank/NBFC till date.

I request you to look in the matter and do the needful.

Regards

Altaf Batliwala
You said right I support you.

Email.asif.[protected]@gmail.com
The Reserve Bank of India today released on its website for public comments, the Report of the Committee to recommend Data Format for Furnishing of Credit Information to Credit Information Companies (CICs). Comments may please be emailed or sent by post to Chief General Manager, Department of Banking Operations and Development, Reserve Bank of India, Shahid Bhagat Singh marg, Mumbai 400 001 on or before April 30, 2014.
The committee has made wide ranging recommendations on issues relating to credit information, such as, increasing its coverage, format of reports and best practices to be followed by credit institutions, credit information companies (CICs) and the Reserve Bank.
Making credit information more useful
The committee has stated that low usage of credit information by member institutions and other specified users needs to be addressed by requiring CICs to populate their databases with requisite credit information so that enquiries by specified users yield desired information. It has recommended that this can be done by increasing the coverage of credit information in terms of membership (all credit institutions should be members of all CICs) and products (also covering defaults in CPs and such other products) and by creating awareness about Credit Information Reports (CIRs).
Credit Information Report
The committee’s recommendations relating to CIR are:
CICs should have a common classification of Credit Scores so that it would be easier to understand and interpret. The Committee has recommended that the CIBIL method of calibrating from 300 to 900 could be adopted by other CICs.
CICs should report details of co-borrower and guarantor.
CICs may provide a single CIR for a borrower even if there are multiple addresses, using a unique identification number (PAN/Aadhaar No.).
CICs may have link with the database of Central Registry of Securitisation Asset Reconstruction and Security Interest of India (CERSAI) which has data on mortgages so that CIRs can also provide information on property mortgages.
An online data correction mechanism may be put in place by CICs to enable members to confirm/upload correction requests.
CIRs should disclose details of disputes relating to information in CIRs and customer comments thereon, if any.
Customer grievance redressal, especially in respect of complaints relating to updation/alteration of credit information, should be given top priority. This may be integrated with existing redressal systems, such as, Banking Ombudsman Scheme.
Banks/financial institutions (FIs) may report cases of wilful default, even in non-suit filed cases, directly to the CICs of which they are members and the system of banks/FIs reporting information on non-suit filed cases of defaulters to the Reserve Bank of India may be dispensed with.
CICs may make available the data in respect of suit-filed cases on their websites in a more user-friendly manner that would facilitate search across periods and banks.
The Committee has further suggested that providing customers with a free copy of their CIRs would help create awareness about the need to have credit discipline, enable customers to correct their behaviour and improve their score well before they plan to avail fresh credit of any kind, help detect identity theft at an early stage, help CICs correct and validate their database and increase their business in the long run. Use of common data formats, including additional information in the formats, such as, dispute codes, consumer comments on dispute, details of collateral, etc., and to institutionalise a continuing mechanism for making changes to data formats could help improve data quality, the committee has pointed out. The committee has recommended a common Data Quality Index that could assist credit institutions in determining the gaps in their data and also move towards improving their performance over a period of time.
Background
The Second Quarter Review of Monetary Policy 2012-13, (October 2012) of the Reserve Bank of India had stated that credit institutions should furnish timely and accurate credit information on their borrowers and make extensive use of available credit information as a part of their credit appraisal process. The post-policy meeting of the Reserve Bank with bankers in October 2012 had emphasised on the need for standardisation of data collection format as well as harmonisation/convergence among CICs to minimise duplication. The Reserve Bank later also met the heads of CICs in which it was suggested that a committee comprising a few banks, CICs and the Indian Banks’ Association be set up to finalise an updated data format. The committee was then set up with the heads of the CICs, a representative each from private sector bank, nationalised bank, foreign bank, urban cooperative bank, NBFC, MFI, IBA and the Legal Department of the Reserve Bank as members. Shri Aditya Puri, Chairman, HDFC Bank acted as the Chairman while Shri Rajesh Verma, CGM, DBOD was its member secretary. The committee recently submitted its report to the Reserve Bank.
Alpana Killawala
Principal Chief General Manager
CIBIL need to ban immediately and we should escalate this matter to our Honorable Prime Minister
as BJP Government sworn in . Many leaders of Congress parties helped corrupted money lenders
and money lending "Shylock " type of banks for their own personal interest .But now BJP is in power
and most of the leaders of BJP are honest and pro-people .

Let us send joint petition to our beloved Honorable Prime Minister and Honorable Finance Minister .

CIBIL should be ban immediately for the interst of nation as it is totally illegal and uncstitutional .
CIBIL need to ban immediately and we should escalate this matter to our Honorable Prime Minister
as BJP Government sworn in . Many leaders of Congress parties helped corrupted money lenders
and money lending "Shylock " type of banks for their own personal interest .But now BJP is in power
and most of the leaders of BJP are honest and pro-people .

Let us send joint petition to our beloved Honorable Prime Minister and Honorable Finance Minister .

CIBIL should be ban immediately for the interest of nation as it is totally illegal and unconstitutional
and created to harm Indian nationals to help anti-Indian foreign money lenders .
CIBIL was created by Congress party as Congress is the main enemy of the people of India .Let us unite and approach our NDA Government to ban this illegal and unconstitutional organization .CIBIL is also violating basic Indian philosophy .I earnestly appeal to noble RSS leaders to tell our new Government to band this pro-Congress and illegal organization .

CIBIL ideology is similar to Congress ideology .Congress always happy to create trouble to general people.
CIBIL was created to create harm for ordinary citizens by illegal way .
Lt us be and approach united approach to our Honorable Prime Minister .

Please send your Grievance to our beloved Prime Minister Narendra Modi

http://pmindia.gov.in/interact_with_pm.php/thanks.php?ln=#

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