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Karthi Keyan
from Chennai, Tamil Nadu
Feb 18, 2012
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Address: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

Dear sir/madam,
I bought a unicorn bike on (04/03/2011), i was really fed up with the service. within 1 year of time i face many problem in the service of the bike, one Mr.Murugan, Service manger of Maansarovar Honda, which is located @ velachery 100 feet road, Chennai, said that he will clear all the problems in the bike but he does n't. The mono suspension in my bike was not working properly, now i am suffering from severe back pain & Doctor said not to drive bike for 3 months, totally i used my bike less no of times only, approximately 7500kms -8000kms only used. Many problems like disk, shuffling of gear makes more noise, battery backup is not proper, self start is not working on gear, still i did n't get my problem solved, many of the times i have spoken with the responsible person in the show room, no one is giving proper responsible to me, if i make a call to the showroom they were not giving proper responsible, some ladies in the service department putting the call on hold for more then 10 to 12 times, i am really fed up with honda service, is their anyone who really solve all those problems

Vehicle No- TN06 D 0985
Job Card No-29500
Regards
Karthikeyan D
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Very Poor Service by Maansarovar Honda Velachery,Chennai — Very poor service

I gave my vechile to manasarovar honda velachery. The service is very worst. my life i am using vechile more than 10 years. this is the first time i am meeting the poor service provider in life. even they not doing water service also not properly.
i am facing same issue from same service centre, friends plse choose other showrooms
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    santh41
    from Chennai, Tamil Nadu
    Feb 17, 2012
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    Address: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    I ordered Front fork stem before a month but still i did not receive.Not only this, I were in search of Side mirrors for 3 months at the end they

    said to fix SHINE's side mirrors to Unicorn bike. And the service always worst from the purchase of the bike. For this i have booked and waited for this

    bike for 2 months. Getting Spare is very very difficult in Honda. And For the past 3 services I was saying to correct some noise in CHAIN. But they never

    put into ears.They are simply changing the engine oil & Water washing and returning to the customers. That too in TIRUPUR PRESSANA HONDA,

    worst in the world.They never did the service well at all.From the purchase of Bike there was noise while applying rear brake.After changing the Brake

    shoes, the sound off. I think they are not giving new product to the customers.

    My experience is worst ,, facing lot of troubles and spending more money for everything. Better Don't prefer Honda.

    WORST SERVICE & SPARE PARTS YOU NEVER GET.
    Dear Sir/Madam,

    I ordered right side door before a month but still i did not receive.Not only this, I were in search of right side for 3 months at the end they
    said to fix HONDA UNICORN's right side door to Unicorn bike. And the service always worst from the purchase of the bike. For this i have booked and waited for this
    My experience is worst, , facing lot of spare parts troubles and spending more money for everything. Better Don't prefer Honda.
    I totally agree with non-availability of spare parts. I just need a rubber ring on carburetor and it has now been over three months i am searching for one. This is the smallest thing. Other spare part availability problem is there. Experiences of others with availability of spares is the same. I am fed to the point that I have started recommending people not to buy Honda products just for non-availability of spare parts even though bikes of Honda are very good in every aspect. Happy hunting for spares
    same prob for me too. i have a 2005 model Unicorn (Dark Grey color). I have been looking for a pertol tank for the past 3 months, in vain. The dealers don't even take the pain to respond properly or give a proper contact where the spares would be available.

    I love HONDA products. Just because of such poor after sales service and unavailability of spare parts I have started to hate it. I have even started advicing my friends and relatives to not go for a HONDA.

    -Sathish.
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      Nilesh Oswal
      from Raia, Goa
      Feb 13, 2012
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      Address: Pune, Maharashtra

      When I took the delivery of my Honda City after 2nd service, I had notified my dissatisfaction to Crystal Honda in writing (about scratches developed in their body shop) and they had written an apology letter to me on 16th Nov 2011 saying that my problem will be resolved in 3rd service. Post this when I gave my car for 2nd service on 3rd Feb 2012, Crystal Honda behaved in the same ill manner and denied the scratches. I filed a complaint with Honda Care and this was punched with number ‘21200124’ in the Honda Head office. However there has not been a solution to this problem as of today. I would request your assistance in getting this issue sorted out or help me sue Honda
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        sujeet mishra
        from Mumbai, Maharashtra
        Feb 10, 2012
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        Address: Gujarat

        Hello

        I have purchased Honda Shine from your Showroom(C R Scooters Vadodara) on 3rd February 2010, and my passing date is 11th Feb 2010. But recently I came to Know that there is a discrepancy between passing date and manufacturing date of the bike(Year 2008) when police doing the routine checkup and they have taken my Bike and all the documents Like RC book and they are claiming that this is a stolen bike .

        So, give me the justification with proper documentation ASAP.

        I am given you the detail below and picture of RC Book-
        Owner Name-Sujeet Mishra
        Address- 51,Yoginagar Colony behind Fatehgang Vadodara
        Registration No.-GJ 6 DN 1021
        Engine No.-JC36E9553055
        Chassis No-ME4JC368AA8139156
        Aug 13, 2020
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          mdaziz08
          from Jugsalai, Jharkhand
          Feb 7, 2012
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          Address: East Singhbhum, Jharkhand

          SIR,
          I purchase a HONDA ACTIVA (SCV110B) Scooter on 4th Feb 2012 from Monka Auto mobiles , Jugsalai, Jamshedpur. The Scooter I revived is not up to the Quality Standards, I found some defects on The Scooter. After that I PROMPTLY made contact with the Dealer and they suggest for Repairing. But I don't want any repair on the Scooter, because I paid the FULL amount in cash...

          So I request you to please make a replacement against this Scooter. Other wise I have to complaint this problem to Indian Consumer Complaints Forum.

          waiting for your earliest response for that I will be very grateful to you.....
          Thanks & KIND RGDS
          Mohammad Munawer
          Mb - [protected]

          INVOICE NO - 11IN02938
          DATE [protected]
          BOOKING NO - BO08606
          FRAME NO - ME4JC448MB8670212
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            Rakesh A Pandey 0303
            from Mumbai, Maharashtra
            Feb 7, 2012
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            Address: Thane, Maharashtra

            I have taken a bike Honda CB shine bike on[protected]withe in 15the days i have a problem of battery and i have given the bike on[protected] to service center for battery but there was no response after that i have given thee bike to service center 2 to 3 time for battery but still i have a battery problem. I am telling to sai point service center that i have a battery problem they are telling me that is not over look out it is Ex-id company look out you go to Ex-id company and tell them for battery. I am telling only one think that we have taken a bike from Honda so why we go to Ex-id company. If i have any problem withe any parts Honda will say that we have taken a parts from japan so i should go to japan for replace.So that is not my look out that is Honda company look out.Give me replay as soon as possible.
            Aug 13, 2020
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            honda/ shine cb bike — battery problem

            sir i have a honda shine cb bike, i have a problem of battery with it. As 2 times i had sent my bike's battery on showroom also the battery is in gurenty period. The dealer of bike says that you contact on main office. give suggestion...............
            thanks
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              sonus79
              from Delhi, Delhi
              Feb 3, 2012
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              Address: Faridabad, Haryana

              I am a Member of Hero honda Good Life Programme Bearing card No [protected], valid from 04/04/10 to 03/09/13, Ttill date i have not received a any gift against my aforementioned good life card. When ever i have asked for the gift they said "Stock Nil" But when last Friday I go to Yova Motor,Faridabad,Haryana to check my gift, they said that you had already collect your gift, but they not shown any entry regarding any gift.This is not good.Kindly take necessary action.

              Thanks,

              Narender Singh
              [protected]@gmail.com
              [protected]
              Aug 13, 2020
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                gulshanp
                from Jalandhar, Punjab
                Jan 25, 2012
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                Address: Gurdaspur, Punjab

                dear sir/madam
                i purchased a new honda aviator from your company dealer ,R HONDA here in gurdaspur city on 13th DEC 2011 and i am facing lots of battery problem in it ,firstly its not charging properly and if it is charged it lasts for only two three days . i got it checked from ur company service station at R HONDA they simply charged the battery once and returned it to me but now im facing lot of problems ,today again i send my aviator to the service center but still they r charging it . as per the machanic the battery is faulty and it has to be replaced .but they r not replacing it so kindly do me this little favour so that baattery is replaced . I am already having two self start vehicles they r working very fine but this aviator doesnot get self start any time . so plz take this matter seriously as my wife is facing lots of problems for this .
                my aviator is billed on the name of
                GULSHAN PAUL
                GURDASPUR
                contact no. is [protected] , [protected]
                Aug 13, 2020
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                  Sanjay Laxman Sawant
                  from Mumbai, Maharashtra
                  Jan 24, 2012
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                  Address: Mumbai City, Maharashtra

                  I have enquired for HONDA ACTIVA vehicle at your authorized dealer M/s Pilot Honda, Chembur, Mumbai. They have told waiting period of eight months to get vehicle. This is very horrible whereas I am looking immediate delivery of HONDA ACTIVA.

                  I am working in Godrej in Mumbai and we are one of your business partner by supplying tools and dies. Hence, I request you to instruct your dealer for immediate delivery.

                  Sanjay Sawant
                  Sr. Manager - Godrej & Boyce
                  Mobile : [protected]
                  E-mail: [protected]@godrej.com
                  Aug 13, 2020
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                  I have enquired for HONDA ACTIVA vehicle at your authorized dealer M/s Pilot Honda, Chembur, Mumbai. They have told waiting period of eight months to get vehicle. This is very horrible whereas I am looking immediate delivery of HONDA ACTIVA.

                  Nayan Bhaskar Koli
                  Trombay, Mumbai-400088
                  Mobile No.:-[protected]/[protected]
                  Email:- nayan.b.[protected]@gmail.com.
                  I HAVE BOOKED HONDA ACTIVA AT PRATHIK HONDA VASHI SECTOR 29, ON 31ST JULY 2011. EVEN AFTER REPEATED REMINDERS AND VISITS, ENQUIRIES IN SHOWROOM OF PRATHIK HONDA VASHI, I HAVE NOT YET GOT THE DELIVERY OF HONA ACTIVA SCOOTER.MR PARVEJ JAMADAR, SUPERVISOR OF THE SHOW ROOM ONLY GIVES FALSE ASSURANCES THAT YOU WILL GET DELIVERY THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK. CAN HONDA INDIA AUTHORITIES CHECK THE DETAILS WITH PRATHIIK HONDA VASHI SECTOR 29 NAVI MUMBAI AND ARRANGE FOR IMMEDIATE DELIVERY OF HONDA ACTIVA SCOOTER TO ME WIYHOUT ANYFURTHER DELAY.
                  H R OBEROI
                  KOPAR KHAIRANE
                  NAVI MUMBAI 400709
                  [protected]
                  [protected]@yahoo.com
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                    ajaykumar8990
                    from Delhi, Delhi
                    Jan 23, 2012
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                    Address: Meerut, Uttar Pradesh

                    dear sir/madam kindly inform to you about my SPLEDER PRO.
                    I have to inform you, i have a probe in SPLEDER PRO like (CHAINSET,SELF ).
                    I'm going to your service canter but PROBLEM IS NOT RESOLVE. His chak
                    our bike in[protected] but his not resolve prob. in my bike
                    so plz contact us to resolve my problem & my batter service...

                    SERVICE CANTER DETAILS:
                    JAY KUMAR ARUN KUMAR PVT.LTD.
                    PH:[protected],2517892
                    DELHI ROAD,MEERUT
                    (U.P.)
                    PIN-250001

                    MODEL: SPLANDER PRO(BLACK BLUE)
                    UP15-AU-7799

                    REGARD'S
                    VINAY KUMAR
                    +91-[protected]
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                      urukundubariki
                      from Bengaluru, Karnataka
                      Jan 18, 2012
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                      Address: Kurnool, Andhra Pradesh

                      I purchaged new honda cb shine on 03/07/2010 at SRI VASAVI HONDA NEAR RTC BUS STAND KURNOOL-518003.Still i have completed three free servings at kurnool.Still i have been facing problem in operating gears since the time of purchaging.I gave complaints many times at SRI VASAVI HONDA KURNOOL.They are not giving right solution and irresponsible against me.I was dissatisfied with their service.
                      Please consider my request through this complaint.please justify.
                      MY DETAIL:
                      Rc no:AP 21 AE 4508
                      OWNER'NAME:B.URUKUNDU
                      Mob no:[protected],[protected]
                      Aug 13, 2020
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                      iam agreed this vehicle having the gear shifting prob
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                        Ranjan Verma
                        from Delhi, Delhi
                        Jan 17, 2012
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                        Address: Allahabad, Uttar Pradesh

                        HI SIR
                        This is to apprise you that i have bought a new Heo honda Hunk front disk bike from Kanha Motors Allahabad on 1st july 2011 and since then i got it serviced two times ,but the servicing given was very poor and none of the times the battery was charged though i got that noted on my job card and my bike's battery is not working properly and gets to lower charging very often creating problem for me to use my bike.Now i want you change my bike's battery as soon as possible.
                        So i want you to take stern steps for getting my problem corrected.

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                        Ranjan Verma
                        Mob:[protected]
                        Restration No:UP 70 BN 5472
                        Red Hunk Front Disk
                        Aug 13, 2020
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                        dear sir
                        i had purchased a bike super splender on 5jan 2012 at starting it is vibrating i had gone to service centre autoneed, i had wasted two day but there is no solution my bike still vibrating i complained in there web site but they had not taken any action.
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                          ravikummari
                          Jan 17, 2012
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                          Address: Visakhapatnam, Andhra Pradesh

                          Sir,
                          I have purchased one Honda Unicorn vehicle from the dealer Vishnu Honda(Sree vishnupriya motors), visakhapatnam on april, 2011.After 2nd service, I found very durty noice from engine,same day handover the to service centre,he check the engine and found some baring was broken,they was taken 15 days for replace part.After replace the part still engine noise sound.have given so many complaints to the dealer that Unicorn is not working properly due to engine problem. I have mentioned that the engine gave more noisy and heat sound. Then, at every time I approached the dealer for repair, I requested them to look the engine problem and rectify the same. But, they have not responded and informed orally that we will see the engine till the vehicle run atleast 1500 km. Now, Unicorn crossed 4, 700 km. Still, the dealer has not cleared my doubt and rectify the engine problem.

                          As and when I approached for any repair, they orally informed that the spares to be replaced. Still my vehicle is not working properly even though I changed the spare parts as per the advice of the dealer. Hence, I am not satisfied the service of the dealer.

                          In this connection, I request you to kindly look into the matter immediately and instruct the dealer Vishnu Honda, visakhapatnam to replace my vehicle, as I am not in a position to bear more cost for repair charges.

                          Thanking you,
                          Aug 13, 2020
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                          Honda CB Unicorn — not available parts

                          Dear Sir,



                          Here I am writing few line for your strong and favorable action. In the month August 2011, I have purchased two wheeler Name- Honda Unicorn from your Sambalpur , Odisha show room. From the day of purchase the Techo meter was unserviceable & not available any parts just like petrol tank break lever front light. The same day I given complain at the show room. As a customer, agent should keep me on high priority. But till today I have not received the above meter as well as other spare parts. My home town is around 50 km fm Sambalpur town. Around 10 to15 times I visited the show room. This wasted my time as well as valuable fuel.


                          As a costumer, I am not at all satisfied with the agent dealing and behavior. Kindly take strong action and do the needful at the earliest which will be a great favor for me and well other people who is going to purchase your products in future in the area.


                          Regards

                          S.Sai das
                          Project engineer
                          SUTRON HYDROMET SYSTEM
                          Goud Pali(Near CWC Office)
                          po:Burla
                          Dist:Sambalpur
                          Orissa
                          Pin:768017
                          Mob:-[protected].

                          Engine problem - Comment #1834271 - Image #0

                          CB UNICORN — Engine problem

                          My unicorn engine making lots of noise.i had only 8months to the bike.i have done all the free services but in the sevice center my complaint does not listen.i have 4 years engine waranty left.plzzzz tell me what should i do....my contac number is [protected]
                          coming gaps in engine of pickup when engine cools it gives trobel in engine
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                            GIRISH KSHATRIYA
                            from Panaji, Goa
                            Jan 16, 2012
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                            Address: Belgaum, Karnataka

                            Sir, My name is GIRISH KSHATRIYA, sir i have a Honda stunner 2008 Model although warranty period of my bike is over. But still i preferred to service my by your authorized service center.. But last time when i had been for servicing one of you engineer informed me that there is come problem with the ” Choke ” and must be replaced with new and then i agreed to replace it with the new one but your engineer later said that its not available in the stock hence i have to wait for a week But the Choke of my bike was already Unplugged / removed..
                            When i ask your engineer to fix it up he said the new stock will be coming soon & they will install the new one BUT NOW IT ABOUT MORE THEN FOUR MONTHS they say that they are out of stock…
                            Even i have some problem with the performance of the bike & after servicing also the problems are not fixed by your engineers & one more thing some of the staff members of Mangesh Honda, dose not give appropriate response to the customers..
                            My Complaint is against Mangesh Honda, Belgaum.
                            So i kindly request you to take some serious action against the matter..
                            Aug 13, 2020
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                            Respected sir, I have being using a Honda Dio bike for the last 8 to9 years.And have serviced my bike on time and have got the best service.But on the 23 of April i brought my bike for an emergency as there was there was an petrol leaking
                            from my bike .And the previous day i had filled Rs 300 worth petrol.Mr Vasant asked me to leave the bike cause there was some problem in the bike and asked me to come at 5pm.but to my surprise my bike tank had very little petrol in it.On asking Mr Umesh told me that he will give me a call the next day.And on the 24Mr Vasant calls up saying that there was very little petrol in the bike which is not true cause i showed that there was a good amount of petrol.sir i hat to get this to your notice as many friend of mine also have the same problem.sir that was my last service at Mangesh Honda and do not wish to get my bike for service. Thanking you Mrs Bhatkande
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                              BIMLESH KUMAR
                              from Angamali, Kerala
                              Jan 15, 2012
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                              Address: Vellore, Tamil Nadu

                              SIR, I BIMLESH KUMAR PURCHASE SPLENDOR PLUS ON 28 OCT2011 FROM PONDECHERRY REGISTRATION NO. PY-01 BN-0448 AGENCY NAME- JAI BHARAT MOTERS WHICH CHAIS NO.MBLHA10EZBHK62967, ENGINE NO. HA10EFBHK68098 & BATTERY TYPE SLNO. & CODE 068742 ABG1 AB2.5LCHHML .
                              PRESENTLY DURING ON POSITION HORN & INDICATOR NOT WORKING WHERE AS DURING ENGINE START EVERY THING IS WORKING AT PRESENT I AM STAYING IN ARAKKONAM TOWN VELLORE DIST AS I AM DEFENCE EMPLOYE, MY Email ID is - [protected]@gmail.com & MY CONTECT NO. [protected] PLS LET ME KNOW WHICH AGENCY I SHOULD APPROACH WHERE AS I COMPLETED MY 1ST SERVICING AT ARAKKONAM , SRI DEVI MOTERS .
                              THANKS,
                              YOURS. BIMLESH KUMAR
                              Aug 13, 2020
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                                obi2011
                                from Hyderabad, Telangana
                                Jan 12, 2012
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                                Address: Vaishali, Bihar

                                Respected sir,
                                I purchased honda cb twister bike on 02/06/2011.My complaint is that, still bike has moved 9000 km.and for every one litre of petrol bike gives an average of 50 km only and also after my 4 th service of bike , mobil comes out of engine.but i have been going to showroom or dealer for the reparing of my bikes rings from 20/12/2011 but every day theey ay me to come other day till now,they dont take any interest on it.so sir ,please take some action upon them.i will be very much thankfull to you sir.
                                thanking you,
                                Your's faithfully,
                                baleshwar singh
                                my details:
                                Model code:MA
                                Model name:CB TWISTER
                                FSC no:229984
                                sold on:02/06/2011
                                Frame no:ME4JC47 2EB8132163
                                Engine no:JC47E 0210989
                                battery make:MF
                                battery code:300411A1
                                Dealer code:BB020001
                                Owner's name:Mr.Baleshwar Singh
                                address: at- chotti marai nunfar, p.o-hajipur, dist-vaishali (bihar)
                                my email ID: singh.[protected]@gmail.com
                                my contact no:[protected]
                                :[protected]
                                Aug 13, 2020
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                                  Sagar Nagpure
                                  from Pune, Maharashtra
                                  Jan 11, 2012
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                                  Address: Pune, Maharashtra

                                  Dear Sir,

                                  This is to inform you that I had problem with the front driver seat door glass opening . This problem is repaeated since last 5 to 6 servicing but still not resolved .The same car was sent to your authorized service center at Deccan Honda Satara Road Pune around 8 days back. Your authorized service centre could not repair the same due to non avaibility of spare parts.Your service station person replied that.

                                  Due to this problem I am not able to use the car since last 1 month.

                                  Please look into the matter very urgently.


                                  Regards,
                                  Mr. Sagar Nagpure
                                  M -[protected]
                                  Aug 13, 2020
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                                    Javid S. Angolkar
                                    from Morjim, Goa
                                    Jan 10, 2012
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                                    Address: South Goa, Goa

                                    I have purchased Honda Dio last for month back, due to some reason met with an accident & my bike is in the GOA RAJEE showroom for last 35 days.Honda dealer told Spare parts are not available with them. It's very shameful for authorise dealer to give such answers.

                                    I request all the people who are planning to buy Honda Two Wheeler they should think twice, because I am the sufferer. I dont want any one to sufer.

                                    JAVID
                                    VASCO DA GAMA - GOA
                                    [protected]
                                    Aug 13, 2020
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                                    recently i bought Honda Dio 110c(2012 model). although when i am riding on the smoother roads its comfortability is ok but on slight rough roads the impact form the front wheel directly hits to both hands and riding is too uncomfortable on such roads

                                    Sanjeewa
                                    Sri Lanka
                                    I purchased Honda duo 2012 model in 2012, I met with an accident 8months back and the parts are totally broke so I went to HYderabad jsp honda showroom wer I bought the dio and asked for the body parts they said to give order in the spareparts office I went and ordered the parts, they said we will let u know wen we get these parts but till today I dint recieved a call or any feedback from them and my insurence also timed out and I have to use that moped for my personal use but in that condition If I take it out policemen asking for the insurence and the insurence fellow saying that we can't update untill the moped is fixed. They say that Honda is best in service for ccustomers but it is tooo bad in serving coustomers. so I prefer not to buy Honda dio because there are no body parts available I'm authorised showroom. Avinash [protected]
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                                      rsonly
                                      from Jammu, Jammu and Kashmir
                                      Jan 10, 2012
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                                      poor service

                                      Address: Jammu, Jammu and Kashmir

                                      Dear Sir/Madam,

                                      Yesterday i visit to Hero Honda service center for repair my bike Glamour ,there is one executive at front counter who submit all bile with job card , i ask him i need to repair my bike , he said go to store man first check parts available or not , then i go to store man for check parts available or not,store man ask go to first supervisor , engineer said go floor supervisor , there is no person who give me...
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                                      shiv 8811
                                      from Jaipur, Rajasthan
                                      Jan 9, 2012
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                                      Address: Bharatpur, Rajasthan

                                      Dear sir/madam,

                                      as par the service record sheet .service is complete. i m sending details of service. my bike "HUNK" SHOCKER problem is going on . but there is no solution.

                                      service kmps company record sheet date
                                      1st 668 500-700 17/04/09
                                      2nd 2107 [protected] 02/11/09
                                      3rd 3082 [protected] 19/02/10
                                      4th 3690 [protected] 8/04/10
                                      5th 4897 [protected] 07/07/10
                                      6th 5588 [protected] 27/08/10
                                      AND PAID SERVICE
                                      7th 11001 [protected] 16/09/11
                                      Aug 13, 2020
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                                      service manager attitude is rude and rubbis. . they all currepeted
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